Not saying some pick and rolls with those two wouldn't work(cause I'm sure it could), but I think if Rodgers has the other teams PG guarding him I'd like to see more iso's or post ups created for him than bringing a larger defender to him. He is just too big and strong for 90% of the PGs we play to stop one on one. And he is obviously more than capable of finding the open man if he's doubled.
Illinois 82, Kansas 75 (Exhibition) Postgame
Not saying some pick and rolls with those two wouldn't work(cause I'm sure it could), but I think if Rodgers has the other teams PG guarding him I'd like to see more iso's or post ups created for him than bringing a larger defender to him. He is just too big and strong for 90% of the PGs we play to stop one on one. And he is obviously more than capable of finding the open man if he's doubled.
Agreed, I've been a huge proponent of CoHawk's ceiling for a couple years...But he's a) playing within himself on offense and b) not playing with guys putting him in untenable situations on offensive sets.
His outside shooting is great in the right circumstances... Trying to cross guys over from 25 feet for a step back 3 is just not where he ever looked comfortable. As a stretch 5 in an offense that gets him clean looks, he's lethal.
And better yet, with his passing instincts and ability to push the ball on the break, he's making TJ even more of a problem.
I think he's going to have a phenomenal year.
I agree with this plan for Rogers/Coleman. Will it work with Rogers/Dainja when the opposing big can stay in close? I don't know.
blackdog
- Champaign
Mostly worked because Hunter is an absolute turnstile on defense. A common theme on a couple of the highlighted plays on this thread.
Being at the game... it was played as hard, rough, and tough as an NCAA tournament game. Trash talk and all. Both teams were going as hard as possible and they both wanted that win very badly. There was panty of bloodshed. That was a real ad it gets. Trust me. Great win and grit by this team!
Seeing a lot of people comment on the amount of layups we gave up. I think you all are missing two important pieces.
1) That’s how basketball is played now. The reality is it’s much better to give up layups than open 3’s. (Kofi is playing overseas and wasn’t a top 10 draft pick for a reason.) And we did a REALLY good job running Kansas off the three point line. The commentary that they are a bad three point shooting team is ridiculous. We locked them down from three. What we saw was good defense, not a poor shooting opponent.
2) We don’t give up that many layups against anyone not named Kansas. They might be the only team we see this year outside of the tourney with comparable length and athleticism. Re-watch the Ottowa game. Every layup they took got swatted into to bleachers. Our length is going to bail us out of a lot of those situations this year.
1) That’s how basketball is played now. The reality is it’s much better to give up layups than open 3’s. (Kofi is playing overseas and wasn’t a top 10 draft pick for a reason.) And we did a REALLY good job running Kansas off the three point line. The commentary that they are a bad three point shooting team is ridiculous. We locked them down from three. What we saw was good defense, not a poor shooting opponent.
2) We don’t give up that many layups against anyone not named Kansas. They might be the only team we see this year outside of the tourney with comparable length and athleticism. Re-watch the Ottowa game. Every layup they took got swatted into to bleachers. Our length is going to bail us out of a lot of those situations this year.
Those two did some PnR together on Sunday and it was fine.
We should be top ten in my opinion. But the season is long and we can prove ourselves throughout. Like coach said, "we have to play like that every game, not just because it was number 1 ranked Kansas".
Kansas player KJ Adam's had been fouled out the game in a true game. Had 6 fouls in the game with a lot of time left in the game.
Coleman would have as well
Not yet - most recent still shows week 1 - Oct 16.
Dr Copejam
- The Rock
I was wondering how that would work. Are the polls adjusted for the result of a game that doesn’t count?
sacraig
- The desert
Don't let facts get in the way of a good narrative.
Also, when Domask and Harmon were both on the floor, Domask was at the point.
MDchicago
- Lake Norman NC
Next AP poll comes out in a couple weeks after real games have been played.
I do think the win over Kansas will positively impact voters' views on the Illini despite being an exhibition. On the News-Gazzette basketball podcast, Scott Richey (who votes in the AP poll) said as much. He voted the Illini 23rd in the pre-season poll and said they would move up in his next vote (while reserving on the exact spot until his vote was due, signaled mid-teens would be a reasonable range).
Suspect the win will help Illinois more than it hurts Kansas in the short-term; in the end just need to keep winning games...
Definitely one of my favorites.
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Oh my. Sounds like a risque horror movie. Or a certain time of the month...Being at the game... it was played as hard, rough, and tough as an NCAA tournament game. Trash talk and all. Both teams were going as hard as possible and they both wanted that win very badly. There was panty of bloodshed. That was a real ad it gets. Trust me. Great win and grit by this team!
Maybe CoHawk has the ability to push the ball on the break but he hasn't shown that at all this year yet. I haven't seen any instances where the Illini end up with an advantage in transition when CoHawk brings up the ball. He is a competent ball handler but I wish he would make some outlet passes off of the rebound instead of bringing the ball up so that the Illini can get some transition hoops.
The coaches were just letting Harmon park Harris in the corner. Didn’t want him on the ball.
Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
I meant for his career, 1 day doesn't mean a whole lot
The Bill Self post game interview brings up an excellant point regarding the Maui Charity exhibition games.
Kansas vs Illinois got $1 million for Maui relief.
So let the college power 5 teams do this each year for notible causes like: homeless persons, low income, cancer research, etc