Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Several more offers went out this week. I understand networking & building relationships, but when a recruit already has offers from over 10 other Power 5 conference teams, we're too late to the dance, especially when ND, O$U FL etc. are involved. In these instances, every moment we spend on these recruits, is time wasted.:illinois:
 
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Several more offers went out this week. I understand networking & building relationships, but when a recruit already has offers from over 10 other Power 5 conference teams, we're too late to the dance, especially when ND, O$U FL etc. are involved. In these instances, every moment we spend on these recruits, is time wasted.:illinois:

The coaches realize they may have no real shot, but you also stated why these offers are made. Not really "wasting" any time.
 
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BananaShampoo

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Several more offers went out this week. I understand networking & building relationships, but when a recruit already has offers from over 10 other Power 5 conference teams, we're too late to the dance, especially when ND, O$U FL etc. are involved. In these instances, every moment we spend on these recruits, is time wasted.:illinois:

It's hard to criticize their methods when the recruiting has been pretty darn good as of late. If it ain't broke...
 
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It's hard to criticize their methods when the recruiting has been pretty darn good as of late. If it ain't broke...

Not meant to be a criticism, just a statement on allocation of time, money & resources. And actually our recruiting successes are part of my point. We were on these kids early & I've applauded the staff for identifying early targets. But my post was referring to being the 20th offer for 4* and 5* players, who we have no chance at
 
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Not meant to be a criticism, just a statement on allocation of time, money & resources. And actually our recruiting successes are part of my point. We were on these kids early & I've applauded the staff for identifying early targets. But my post was referring to being the 20th offer for 4* and 5* players, who we have no chance at

What number offer were we for Ke'Shaun Vaughn? You never hold an offer from a stud player because of a "welp, we got no chance!" attitude.
 
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What number offer were we for Ke'Shaun Vaughn? You never hold an offer from a stud player because of a "welp, we got no chance!" attitude.

actually we were on Vaughn early and offered before his homestate school TN & even before his hometown school Vandy. Thanks for reinforcing my point about being in early for top recruits:thumb:
 
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actually we were on Vaughn early and offered before his homestate school TN & even before his hometown school Vandy. Thanks for reinforcing my point about being in early for top recruits:thumb:

I'd still be willing to bet that we weren't his first or second offer. The point remains that you offer kids you want, period. It's not a new concept.
 
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I'd still be willing to bet that we weren't his first or second offer. The point remains that you offer kids you want, period. It's not a new concept.

You either completely misunderstood the point of my post, which was pretty clear. Or you're one of our fans who drinks too much O&B koolaid, thinking we're going to come in late and out-recruit O$U, FSU and other top teams. It doesn't work that way.
For us to win recruiting battles for 4* players over top schools, we either have an already-existing connection to the recruit or we MUST be on them early and build a relationship prior to the big offers coming, Apparently, that concept is new to you
 
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You either completely misunderstood the point of my post, which was pretty clear. Or you're one of our fans who drinks too much O&B koolaid, thinking we're going to come in late and out-recruit O$U, FSU and other top teams. It doesn't work that way.
For us to win recruiting battles for 4* players over top schools, we either have an already-existing connection to the recruit or we MUST be on them early and build a relationship prior to the big offers coming, Apparently, that concept is new to you

I agree with you. But I think Beckham is trying to build a relationship with the coaches for a 2017 kid or 2018 kid. The top high school programs produce top players every year. I also them Bellamy thinks he will land one of the the Wide Receivers.
 
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I agree with you. But I think Beckham is trying to build a relationship with the coaches for a 2017 kid or 2018 kid. The top high school programs produce top players every year. I also them Bellamy thinks he will land one of the the Wide Receivers.

this guy is coaching for us ?
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this guy is coaching for us ?
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oops, talking calcio with some Italian friends and must have still been on my mind.

did anyone else see the Nik Urban prediction from the Duke Insider?
 
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Cautiously optimistic about Urban, would love a d lineman too!
 
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You either completely misunderstood the point of my post, which was pretty clear. Or you're one of our fans who drinks too much O&B koolaid, thinking we're going to come in late and out-recruit O$U, FSU and other top teams. It doesn't work that way.
For us to win recruiting battles for 4* players over top schools, we either have an already-existing connection to the recruit or we MUST be on them early and build a relationship prior to the big offers coming, Apparently, that concept is new to you

Either that or you don't understand that part of building relationships with schools is offering their players. Even if every other school in the country has offered, you better too if you like the player and want to start building a relationship with the staff.

I don't get why you think I said we could come in late and out-recruit those schools unless you just intend on putting words in people's mouths to continue an argument.
 
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Just wanted to share a little story about an Illinois 2015 recruit. I'm an assistant baseball coach at Lake Park and today we had a practice with the Al Raby HS baseball team because one of my coaches ex players is the head baseball coach there.

I saw Jamal Milan there and he is a first baseman. I went up to him after and congratulated him on going to Illinois and told him I'll be keeping an eye and rooting for him at Illinois. He said thank you coach, I appreciate it.

After practice we all got together and broke down the teams, and he just said thank you Lake Park, we all really appreciate it. Jamal and all the kids from AL Raby were very nice young men. It was fun to be apart of it and helping these kids the game of baseball.
 
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Either that or you don't understand that part of building relationships with schools is offering their players. Even if every other school in the country has offered, you better too if you like the player and want to start building a relationship with the staff.

I don't get why you think I said we could come in late and out-recruit those schools unless you just intend on putting words in people's mouths to continue an argument.

I mentioned that aspect. It's a separate topic from your earlier replies, though.
Of course creating a dialogue and building a relationship with specific programs and among different coaching circles is vital for future recruits. That is recruiting & I thought it went w/o saying.

Keep in mind, every coach/university doesn't get equal time to build that relationship. We don't have an in because we offered their star player like so many others did. During the process, their coaches have to prioritize. The recruit has to have us as a realistic option. Another reason why we need to be early, in order to connect with the staff and/or the player.:illinois:
 
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Any clue why they offered Davir Hamilton? West coast LB? Do we have some tie in?
 
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Ryllini

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Any clue why they offered Davir Hamilton? West coast LB? Do we have some tie in?

I don't know who the kid is, but I like the staff offering kids where we may have a connect or not. I know it was beefed about us offering a high rated player late earlier in this thread, but it is about establishing relationships. You get in with some schools that have some stars and sure we probably won't get those kids, but you never know they may have some 3 star kids in the pipeline they can send our way. I think if we do right by some kids in football factories, it can only serve you better later for the higher rated kids.
 
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Mike Phair claimed he had a West Coast contacts from Juco days and with Seattle. Maybe one of those contacts coming to fruition
 
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