Illinois Football Staff Thread

#376      

Ubermensch

BOOM! Feed my ego.
This late in the game, I don't care if he hires Cubit as OC, Beckman as DC, Zook as ST coach, Turner as QB coach, Tupper as LB coach, and Bruce Weber as o-line coach.

We got Lovie Freaking Smith as new HFC and, more importantly, the UI decided to try out for the varsity squad. I'm thrilled with whoever they are able to plug into the coaching holes in the 2nd week of March.
 
#377      

ILLINIShox24

Orange Krush '04 & '05
This late in the game, I don't care if he hires Cubit as OC, Beckman as DC, Zook as ST coach, Turner as QB coach, Tupper as LB coach, and Bruce Weber as o-line coach.

We got Lovie Freaking Smith as new HFC and, more importantly, the UI decided to try out for the varsity squad. I'm thrilled with whoever they are able to plug into the coaching holes in the 2nd week of March.

Not gonna lie... this is too far :eek:
 
#378      

Fillory

4th Floor Grainger
Not gonna lie... this is too far :eek:

It absolutely is too far. In order to be great, a number of important people need to make a number of important moves. Whitman has done his part. Now it is up to Lovie Smith to make the right moves. Lovie was hired to hire a great staff. There are too many players on a college football team to have a weak staff.
 
#379      

dsboyce

Golden, IL
If Bellemy is gone is Nate likely gone as well then?

It seems he's wanting a very clean slate besides Phair who has coached with him before.

I'm hoping to see Nate stay on as some sort of staffer. He isn't really qualified to be a coach yet.
 
#380      

DrewD007

Woodridge, IL
If Nate does stay on I think it'd be in that Director of Football Operations role he was in initially.
 
#381      

BZuppke

Plainfield
I don't know about Tupper. He writes about sports but I don't think he's ever coached.
 
#382      
This late in the game, I don't care if he hires Cubit as OC, Beckman as DC, Zook as ST coach, Turner as QB coach, Tupper as LB coach, and Bruce Weber as o-line coach.

We got Lovie Freaking Smith as new HFC and, more importantly, the UI decided to try out for the varsity squad. I'm thrilled with whoever they are able to plug into the coaching holes in the 2nd week of March.

LOL, CHL with the kill shot

I agree
 
#383      

Ubermensch

BOOM! Feed my ego.
It absolutely is too far.

What tipped it? You don't think Mark Tupper can coach up the linebackers? The point is, I feel pretty confident Lovie Smith knows he needs good assistants. Being March 8, the pool is a little shallow, however.
 
#384      

icengineer

Southern Illinois
What tipped it? You don't think Mark Tupper can coach up the linebackers? The point is, I feel pretty confident Lovie Smith knows he needs good assistants. Being March 8, the pool is a little shallow, however.

This is very true. He is almost limited to either NFL guys hoping to take a step up, or NCAA coaches currently unemployed. It's not ideal. :D
 
#386      
Some people are saying OL is the most important coach outside of the OC and DC. Wrong. It's definitely the S&C coach. They spend more time with the players than anyone coach. Having a top flight S&C coach did wonders for us under Lou Hernandez. We need another one, and if we want one, Lovie and company have to pony up. Alabama is paying their S&C coach 600K a year. We have to go at least 400-500K to get one.

Here is a list of the highest paid S&C coaches. Note: it is outdated due to Scott Cochran making 600K.
 
#388      
I wonder what the over under is for number of coaches that will be retained after this upcoming season. Obviously we want to see everyone succeed, and it's going to depend on the guys that Lovie brings in. But if he can't get his first choices this season, and he's bringing in warm bodies until next season - how many make it two years? Again, obviously this will depend on the guys he brings in.
 
#389      

icengineer

Southern Illinois
I was soooo looking forward to hearing a big name hire today. I wanted either an OC or DC named. Bummer:( Tomorrow maybe????? :thumb::D:whoo:
 
#390      
Some people are saying OL is the most important coach outside of the OC and DC. Wrong. It's definitely the S&C coach. They spend more time with the players than anyone coach. Having a top flight S&C coach did wonders for us under Lou Hernandez. We need another one, and if we want one, Lovie and company have to pony up. Alabama is paying their S&C coach 600K a year. We have to go at least 400-500K to get one.

Here is a list of the highest paid S&C coaches. Note: it is outdated due to Scott Cochran making 600K.

First year that the current strength coach is able to do his own thing with out being handcuffed by beck.. I've heard good things about this offseason from a few players. Interested to see the results on the field.
 
#391      
I understand the Bellamy love, but Lovie himself said Texas and Florida will get hit hard.

Andrew Hayes-Stoker-

Attended High School in Texas
Attended College TCU
Coached Texas A&M
Coached Florida International
Coached Tampa Bay

I think this may be one of our Aces
 
#392      
I understand the Bellamy love, but Lovie himself said Texas and Florida will get hit hard.

Andrew Hayes-Stoker-

Attended High School in Texas
Attended College TCU
Coached Texas A&M
Coached Florida International
Coached Tampa Bay

I think this may be one of our Aces
I agree I like this hire. We have no idea of the potential with him and lovie for this team
 
#393      
Some people are saying OL is the most important coach outside of the OC and DC. Wrong. It's definitely the S&C coach. They spend more time with the players than anyone coach. Having a top flight S&C coach did wonders for us under Lou Hernandez. We need another one, and if we want one, Lovie and company have to pony up. Alabama is paying their S&C coach 600K a year. We have to go at least 400-500K to get one.

Here is a list of the highest paid S&C coaches. Note: it is outdated due to Scott Cochran making 600K.
Long been saying this for a few years now. When was the last time we had a good to great S&C coach? Now is the time. We have been lacking as far as gaining strength and getting guys to where they need to be for far too long. There are times when I look at the team and some of them look like average joes. We have the necessary resources how to go get a top flight S&C coach. Agreed on all points.
 
#394      
I was soooo looking forward to hearing a big name hire today. I wanted either an OC or DC named. Bummer:( Tomorrow maybe????? :thumb::D:whoo:

Look for things to move rather quickly now. Tomorrow will be the start of some leaks
 
#395      
Long been saying this for a few years now. When was the last time we had a good to great S&C coach? Now is the time. We have been lacking as far as gaining strength and getting guys to where they need to be for far too long. There are times when I look at the team and some of them look like average joes. We have been lacking in that regard since ive been a close follower.

Never forget when Lou was here, Dinardo saying that our team looked every bit the part of Michigan and OSU as they walked around.

Chase Daniel said we were the biggest, fastest team they played all year.

Of course some of that was the elite recruits Zook and co. brought in but Lou was one of the best.

We need that again and it is so underrated to a team's success
 
#396      
Never forget when Lou was here, Dinardo saying that our team looked every bit the part of Michigan and OSU as they walked around.

Chase Daniel said we were the biggest, fastest team they played all year.

Of course some of that was the elite recruits Zook and co. brought in but Lou was one of the best.

We need that again and it is so underrated to a team's success

Hernandez was very good. I'll attribute alot of Rashard, Vontae, Liuget's etc etc success to him. I think it spoke a lot to the level of talent like you said though.

The last few years we have lacked in that area so much. I look at guys like DiLauro and Schmidt to name a couple and see guys who still need to develop more strength/power. We have left alot to be desired since Lou.
 
#397      
I think a lot of people are not realizing an important factor in assembling a coaching staff. You can't just throw money at a bunch of big-name assistants and expect success. The goal is to hire the most qualified guys who all have bought into the HC's philosophy and style.

Something else, if you look at it, the two guys we have confirmed are both going to be hired at around 200K/year, which is barely a dent into the 4M pool. McGee, if hired, will take up a large chunk. We can get Nickerson ~650K I would think. There is still a lot of money out there, and I think it will be interesting to see who the recruiting coordinator is.
 
#398      
I think a lot of people are not realizing an important factor in assembling a coaching staff. You can't just throw money at a bunch of big-name assistants and expect success. The goal is to hire the most qualified guys who all have bought into the HC's philosophy and style.

Something else, if you look at it, the two guys we have confirmed are both going to be hired at around 200K/year, which is barely a dent into the 4M pool. McGee, if hired, will take up a large chunk. We can get Nickerson ~650K I would think. There is still a lot of money out there, and I think it will be interesting to see who the recruiting coordinator is.

Agreed, and I think the rumored guys, so far, are about what I expected. Guys who have been around and guys Lovie is comfortable with.

-Retaining Phair was basically a given solely on familiarity.. I like the fact that he will be in the DL role especially, I thought the DL made great strides last year. Make no mistake about it, most of the credit for our defensive improvement (Giving up over 100 ypg and 11 ppg less) should go to Phair, IMO. Whether it was previously Beckman or Banks's defense prior to Phair being named co-dc is different debate, a lot of the tea leaves tell me that Phair was largely responsible. All my questions that I had of Phair (me, along with alot of others didn't like the hire at the time) were squashed.
*assuming his salary would stay around the 450-500k region.

-I think Butkus gets alot of wrongful blame for his time here. He and Beck never saw eye-to-eye and he was doomed from the start IMO. There were alot of factors here. I think his familiarity with the state already can only be a plus.
*Projected salary: ~200k

-Hayes-stoker I like a whole lot. I think his potential as a recruiter is pretty significant solely based on his past: his connections deal mostly with Florida and Texas are great. Also another familiarity factor with Lovie that can't be understated.
*projected salary: ~150-200k I would assume?

-McGee: proven recruiter, ties to Chicago. Coached Mallett (who is somehwhat similair to Wes), where he had great success and had the SEC's top offense in 2011. His work with quarterbacks, especially, cannot be overlooked.
*salary:~800k-1M

-Nickerson I don't know a whole lot about, but certainly being a 5 time pro-bowler carries some weight. To me, this hire is one of those that has a lot of potential. Maybe one of those guys that has just been patiently waiting his turn.
*salary: ~700-850k

Overall, i still like the early direction this is going. A lot of experience, familiarity with lovie so far. My only issue is Butkus but given the circumstances of his previous time here, I'll reserve judgment. The two I'm looking at the most closely now are recruiting coordinator and S&C coach.
 
#400      
Did he or Rivera call defensive plays in Chicago? I know he called offensive plays for a season in Chicago, though. I don't believe he'll do either in Illinois.
Rivera called the plays. Smith never called the offensive plays in Chicago. He took over the actual D calls from Babich, which ultimately lead to the hiring of Marinelli as DC.