Think we're in close agreement. I don't see him making the first round for the reasons mentioned, but I do think he can make the 2nd. I hope our team does him some favors and helps him look good --that never hurts
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (September 2016)
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Think we're in close agreement. I don't see him making the first round for the reasons mentioned, but I do think he can make the 2nd. I hope our team does him some favors and helps him look good --that never hurts
Isn't there a 2019 or 2020 in Peoria who's supposed to be THE next big thing?
EDIT - Found it - http://www.scout.com/college/illinois/story/1682514-2020-peoria-pg-adam-miller-visiting-illini
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Saw this kid play last year against my son's school's 8th grade team (my son is in 1st grade, so yeah he didn't play). He was so far ahead of everyone on his team it wasn't even funny. There was a rumor he might go to prep school bc a lot of parents don't like Booth at Manual and don't want their kids playing for him...
Have heard this as well, but I'd be surprised if he moves within/out of district before 2018 at the earliest. It's always tough to project how kids this young will perform at the college level (Mike Shaw in 8th grade anyone?), but he's certainly one to keep an eye on down the road.
Just curious why Booth ended up at Depaul and not Illinois. It was a period when Illinois was landing the state top talent, so possibly he was not the first or second choice.
Well, If he were looking for immediate playing time, I don't think the flying Illini was the place to go. :thumb: And Marcus Liberty was probably a little better recruit.
People are reading to much into Wilkes comments. He said basically the same thing after his visit here. He said he loved how real Groce and staff was. That they didn't just tell him what he wanted to hear and that others better do the same. Well something along that line can't find the article again but basically he was just saying what he already said after his visit here. I think it's more him saying this for the rest of his visits. He don't want to hear anything but the truth like he got here.
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Epperson looks all of about 12 years old, lol. Let's not let him leave without scheduling an OV!!!
see Calpari Jon
That's really a fictional scenario (5 x 5* centers), so it is really meaningless to compare, other than to artificially feel good about our class.
I like our class' positional balance, but if you ask me whether I would trade it for a realistic class of 5 x 5* players without even knowing their position, I would do it in a heartbeat. You will never get 5 x 5* players in the same position for the simple reason that they will never commit to the same team, so chances are that you will likely hit multiple positions.
Top talent gives you more flexibility and can mask positional gaps (see flyin Illini). Problem is when you get average B1G talent and have positional gaps on top of it, which has been our problem the last few years.
Wilkes' Mom really likes Fletch.
This made me laugh! Well played.
Yes I am with you on this kid. We have recruited some outstanding players but this guy excites me as much as any of them of the raw potential he has. Could play the middle or the PF spot very well. Would like to see him and Tilmon on the floor at the same time once in a while. Wouldn't be close to the bottom in the big ten in rebounding with these 2 guys. The one video where he has that turn around jump shot sold me. Only way to defend that would be to foul him.
The 5 x 5* example was used hypothetically to illustrate a broader point, which you apparently missed.
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well I didn't read him to be trying to make out class sound better he was just making the point of saying the best classes by how they rank them really doesn't mean as much as what a team gets to fit what they need. you running down him saying 5x5* centers is as unrealistic as your 5 x5* not knowing there pos if you ask me, for the same reason and not many teams take 5 guys in a year. Malcolm Hill was a 60-70 ranked recruit and not many of us would trade him for anyone that was ranked higher in his class. So lets get these guys in school and see what they do and support them rather then worry about if they are ranked 1st or 500th
I recall a Derek Piper article after his visit in which Wilkes commented that Groce has been the only coach that has come right out and repeatedly said "you WILL be playing the 3 for us".
This might be where the honesty "dilemma" was planted in his mind in regards to wanting coaches (Clappy) to "be real"with him came from.
that's what I have thought as well. I think even if they might want to use him at the 4 at rime he just wants them to be straight about it. but this is also why I think adding Kiir would help our chances be one more big showing him the 3 is his spot. Getting Epps here Monday and putting a big push for him brings up the question of IF we could get any of the 3 Epps, Kiir or Wilkes who helps us the most I believe Kiir is who I would take. Epps would be a really close 2nd for me just I think Kiir is more ready to come in and be able to hold up in the BIG 10 as a fr. Either would be great gets though
I'm gonna start by saying I like Kiir and hope we get him because I think he fits our class well. However, I don't see the athleticism that everyone else does. He does appear to have length so I'll give you that, but from what I see his athletic feats appear proportionate to his height/length more than his twitch/bounce.
That said, I haven't seen him in person and I'm judging the few highlight tapes that have been posted. Highlight tapes generally make players look better than they are.
During the Olympic basketball tournament the announcers repeatedly mentioned that the pro and Olympic bb is going away from the 5 traditional positions and just having 5 great players that can do multiple things.
Wilkes can slide right into Malcolm's position but he can play the stretch forward position as well. The stretch 4 or stretch forward position is closer to a traditional 3 than the power forward position IMHO. Playing the 4 at Kansas under Self (hi-lo, two traditional bigs) is different than playing for Groce. I don't have access to premium or inside connections. But I wonder if Groce said you will play the 3 and in smaller lineups we might play you alongside 2 CG or a CG and another WF (with just one true Big).
Wilkes can slide right into Malcolm's position but he can play the stretch forward position as well. The stretch 4 or stretch forward position is closer to a traditional 3 than the power forward position IMHO. Playing the 4 at Kansas under Self (hi-lo, two traditional bigs) is different than playing for Groce. I don't have access to premium or inside connections. But I wonder if Groce said you will play the 3 and in smaller lineups we might play you alongside 2 CG or a CG and another WF (with just one true Big).
Don't remember that, but interesting if true.
I can't imagine every coach in America isn't telling him that if that is what he wants to hear.
Who knows!
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He's not a freak or uber athlete. But he's a compelling package, with a very high ceiling. He could be a standout by his upperclass years. He's got good mass, good hands, can handle the ball pretty well for a big and he's a legit 6' 9". I don't give a damn what he's ranked, I want him.
Virtually perfect complement (as an incoming freshman) to Tilmon and will see a ton of PT in his upperclass years.
Bravo !
This is meticulous and a bit goofy, so feel free to toss in jokes about growth plates, but I've been following Kiir's twitter pretty closely and he recently changed his listed height from 6'9" to 6'10"...I know, I know. Just a casual observation. With that said, if he sprouts up anymore sign me up x2
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