Joel Goodson
- dawgville
If Liddell goes elsewhere, I'm sure there will be fans calling for Walker's head. However, the onus should be on Underwood here.
FIFYWhen Liddell goes elsewhere, I'm sure there will be fans calling for Walker's head. However, the onus should be on Underwood here.
Much like we see comments about Antigua or Coleman not pulling their weight in recruiting, I would say the same for Walker. Groce leaving threw a wrench in the mix a little bit but all he has done is helped close Mark Smith but couldn't keep him here. Couldn't hold on to Pickett or Tilmon. I guess he helped with Malcolm Hill way back when? He has not helped us to capitalize in St. Louis or Missouri/Kansas as expected. Everything ultimately falls on Underwood so I'm fine with that position too. We just need to get back to being a tournament team and this high-level recruiting will be much easier.If Liddell goes elsewhere, I'm sure there will be fans calling for Walker's head. However, the onus should be on Underwood here.
His article seems pretty good. He admits he just doesn't know, and believes tOSU to be the leader despite the roster competition. Mizzou has a good shot and just accepted a friend's commit. I'm of the same opinion --either wouldn't surprise me, but I'd put my money on tOSU.
So, what's the answer to our recruiting woes. We keep hosting these great players but miss on 95% of them. (Thankful for Ayo). It feels like we're not much more than a mid-major. What do we do?
So, what's the answer to our recruiting woes. We keep hosting these great players but miss on 95% of them. (Thankful for Ayo). It feels like we're not much more than a mid-major. What do we do?
So, what's the answer to our recruiting woes. We keep hosting these great players but miss on 95% of them. (Thankful for Ayo). It feels like we're not much more than a mid-major. What do we do?
You are wrong. About 100% gurus think it is OSU.
Win!!!So, what's the answer to our recruiting woes. We keep hosting these great players but miss on 95% of them. (Thankful for Ayo). It feels like we're not much more than a mid-major. What do we do?
I’m just amazed at how Illinois doesn’t get a higher percentage of Illinois kids. U of M and MSU get the majority of high level Michigan kids, so there is an issue with Illinois that needs analysis
CU is nothing like Chicago or the Chicago area. Southern Illinois is more southern than Illinois. Both Ann Arbor and Lansing are metropolitan areas
I feel like you didn’t read the original post.The dreaded "not the last visit" comment. We had been Liddell's last visit and everyone complained about how being last was dangerous cause he could commit earlier. Can't win.
Agree you need to win.
Tired of hearing it takes time and the new coach (coach after coach - kinda of like the football nightmare) needs to incorporate his style. Other places & other coaches have done it, so what’s the problem here ? We’ve been whiffing for almost 15 years. It’s on Underwood & ALL the staff for whiffing like we do on 99% of all these top recruits we are after.
+1. It really is at an all time low and although the fan base is still pretty large, it is aging. There isn’t much of a following within the same age group as recruits which makes recruiting in-state even more challenging and that doesn’t even include the politics of Chicago recruiting. Our blueprint to getting out of the gutter of the conference will have to rely almost entirely on recruiting nationwide and once we do that the in-state targets will see Illinois as an attractive destination.We have very little brand value outside of Illinois and St Louis, and even within the state, it depends. This goes for both the program and the coach. This is why the blue bloods can swoop in and get Chicago’s best. They win consistently and their players get drafted. Similar can be said for coaches, even for relative beginners like Penny where his brand can be a big advantage. Ultimately with our program and our coach, I believe that winning is the only thing that will turn things around.
I am still voting tOSU.EJ is announcing Monday at 6 pm per his Twitter
I am still voting tOSU.
Win and they will come. I’m not worried about missing on all three of these recruits because we haven’t been a good program since 2005. If we were winning and getting into the tournament every year then I would start questioning what we are doing wrong. The last draft pick out of Illinois was Meyers Leonard, let that sink in. Win....and they will come.
Stuemke5 said we were behind days ago. Stuemke's CB > Piper's CB.