Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

[derrick6]

The ESPN story on this is wild.

Definitely a new frontier.

Lol. Good. You overpay and it keeps haunting you

 

[Future Walk-On]

I had to blink but I'm back for the night shift.

 

[BashCtIllini]

Miami blew its load, lol.

 

[billybaroo]

So... if work like is this do work him but it do?

This make more sense than anything I’ve read on here all day…

 

[CV Illini]

So... if work like is this do work him but it do?

 

[Emerson Bigguns]

He led Miami to an Elite Eight and then saw some new guy come in and get $800k + a car. I kind of understand why he would want more money. It's a weird dynamic, but I bet we'll see this more often.

At least until NIL normalizes. Seems like lots of dudes are scrambling for a bag right now.

 

[JMoser16]

Today is going to be a total nothing burger

at the risk of looking narcissist, today was a nothing burger

 

[Indy Illini Fan]

At least until NIL normalizes. Seems like lots of dudes are scrambling for a bag right now.

Miserable to be a CBB coach right now …

You’re going to see a lot of guys starting to retire early or head to the NBA … I’ve had coaches who consistently have top 25 teams tell me “it’s not even enjoyable anymore.”

 

[Deep]

I love that players can make money for their likeness but the NIL and to a much larger extent the portal are a disaster for NCCAB.

 

[OrangeKrush1981]

He led Miami to an Elite Eight and then saw some new guy come in and get $800k + a car. I kind of understand why he would want more money. It's a weird dynamic, but I bet we'll see this more often.

I understand too, and am concerned about how this plays out across the high-profile, fortune-generating (for coaches, ADs, talking heads, once-in-a-while AAU etc. operators/coaches, and maybe now college student-athletes) NCAA sports. All of this is predictable from the way things have been going on in summer travel basketball for the last 3ish decades. Watching the vultures spiraling around a 13 or 14 year old burgeoning start is ... revolting. Now we will see some of this play out in college.

I am not saying every guy transferring is (1) being taken advantage of or (2) is a selfish jerk. Many transfers will be very well-reasoned, rationale, fair and completely ethical. Some will not.

This unanticipated aspect of unregulated NIL activity is very worrisome from the point of view of building a team. I don't mean assembling players.

I mean getting a group of young men to believe in their team mates and the program they have committed to with their team mates is always challenging. This emotional process is absolutely vital in establishing an actual team. And the setbacks of losing, not starting, blunt coaching and so on do NOT help with moment-to-moment team building, although these all can contribute importantly to building a strong team in the long run. Including over more than one season, with guys battling to overcome all the hurdles that challenge any member of any team.

 

[SeattleSlim]

At least until NIL normalizes. Seems like lots of dudes are scrambling for a bag right now.

It’ll vanish before it normalizes.

 

[dwpittman]

You and I would get along great Pru, we really really would

If you don't get along with Pru, I think that the problem is you.

 

[Whitmans Sampler]

Miami blew its load, lol.

Referred to as ‘premature ecompensation’ in the NIL world.

 

[Emerson Bigguns]

Miserable to be a CBB coach right now …

You’re going to see a lot of guys starting to retire early or head to the NBA … I’ve had coaches who consistently have top 25 teams tell me “it’s not even enjoyable anymore.”

I do think sanity will return once the market sets itself and athletes know what they can reasonably expect. Right now everyone seems to be worried someone else might get a bigger cut.

 

[rtbritt]

Pardon my ignorance...I was under the impression the NIL stuff was basically a way for the players to get sponsorship and sell things with their name, image, or likeness. Now it seems like the school/athletic department is offering money to the players...? Is that correct?

 

[Emerson Bigguns]

Pardon my ignorance...I was under the impression the NIL stuff was basically a way for the players to get sponsorship and sell things with their name, image, or likeness. Now it seems like the school/athletic department is offering money to the players...? Is that correct?

Of course not…

 

[illinihawk16]

Pardon my ignorance...I was under the impression the NIL stuff was basically a way for the players to get sponsorship and sell things with their name, image, or likeness. Now it seems like the school/athletic department is offering money to the players...? Is that correct?

Not the school or AD. Has to be somebody outside of the school, I believe. So, alumni or boosters with boatloads of money.

 

[HailtotheChief]

I'm not sure where to put this... it's NIL, it's transfer portal, it's a lot of stuff. But I'm sure we all assumed this was happening behind the scenes anyway but for it to come out this quickly... I'm surprised.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1519865836881723392

 

[SeattleSlim]

I do think sanity will return once the market sets itself and athletes know what they can reasonably expect. Right now everyone seems to be worried someone else might get a bigger cut.

And you expect that to change how?

 

[KingWolf11]

Miserable to be a CBB coach right now …

You’re going to see a lot of guys starting to retire early or head to the NBA … I’ve had coaches who consistently have top 25 teams tell me “it’s not even enjoyable anymore.”

If retiring early with millions stacked in the bank or taking a better job to make more millions is being miserable I would kill to be miserable lol

 

[Epsilon]

I understand too, and am concerned about how this plays out across the high-profile, fortune-generating (for coaches, ADs, talking heads, once-in-a-while AAU etc. operators/coaches, and maybe now college student-athletes) NCAA sports. All of this is predictable from the way things have been going on in summer travel basketball for the last 3ish decades. Watching the vultures spiraling around a 13 or 14 year old burgeoning start is ... revolting. Now we will see some of this play out in college.

I am not saying every guy transferring is (1) being taken advantage of or (2) is a selfish jerk. Many transfers will be very well-reasoned, rationale, fair and completely ethical. Some will not.

This unanticipated aspect of unregulated NIL activity is very worrisome from the point of view of building a team. I don't mean assembling players.

I mean getting a group of young men to believe in their team mates and the program they have committed to with their team mates is always challenging. This emotional process is absolutely vital in establishing an actual team. And the setbacks of losing, not starting, blunt coaching and so on do NOT help with moment-to-moment team building, although these all can contribute importantly to building a strong team in the long run. Including over more than one season, with guys battling to overcome all the hurdles that challenge any member of any team.

Did you accidentally type your password in for your username?

 

[logjam]

Russian propaganda....

 

[HailtotheChief]

Miami blew its load, lol.

It is and always be a football school and state...and region. Basketball is and has been secondary there fort years. Even when teams in the region do well at hoops , football is king and baseball is there too.

 

[SeattleSlim]

Russian propaganda....

More like Russian roulette

 

[mycitymytime]

Miserable to be a CBB coach right now …

You’re going to see a lot of guys starting to retire early or head to the NBA … I’ve had coaches who consistently have top 25 teams tell me “it’s not even enjoyable anymore.”

I have also talked to a few kids that are just outside the top 100. They are worried about the impact of the portal on picking their dream school, and then free agency changing that. Things are so wild right now.