Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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And he won his last championship 23 years ago. I also don't think he goes as far as holding a player in place and screaming f bombs in his face.

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Yup..... And Izzo keeps winning NCAA tourney games.

Perhaps BU oughta watch tape of Tommy's offensive sets and get guys that can run them?
 
#802      
I don't think there is a right or wrong way. BU can be a Bobby Knight villain or a Tony Dungy saint as long as he wins as far as I'm concerned despite my preference for one style over the other. Brian Urlacher and Peyton Manning seemed to do ok with Lovie and Dungy as coaches after all.

The caveat is that if you scout who you think are great players and promise them playing time and positions they don't later earn through performance and merit in front of their team mates...You are telling the other players that their performance and work ethic mean nothing because the guy they are out-performing gets to play in the games. Good luck being a hard-!!! coach in that environment.

Winning cures it all...if BU wins he can scream all he likes. Thats why Izzo can scream. But when you continually cant get out of the first round of the tournament...then those screams start falling more and more on deaf ears.

I'm not there with Brad yet...he keeps finding ways to keep the team competitive. He had to overhaul the roster and staff this year and still got us 20 wins.

This next year is gonna be even harder because signs point to a mass exodus.

When we start to go 17-15 and can't get a top 100 guard... then we start having real conversations.
 
#803      
I checked the following a couple of times and if I'm wrong it can't be by much.
First weekend winning teams combined 3 point shooting was 122-330 for 37%. The highest being PSU at 59% (yikes).
These numbers include 5 winning teams that shot under 30% but still managed to win. Here they are and with the opponent they defeated:
Houston 25% beat N. Kentucky 15%
Princeton 16% beat AZ 19%
SD State 25% beat Charleston 21%
Tenn 25% beat Louisiana 33%
Arkansas 27% US 27%

If you remove the 5 winning teams which shot under 30%, the remaining 11 winning teams shot 103-246 for 42%.

Shooters, shooters, shooters.
 
#804      
It’d be great if you had 15 players that all could start and play right away for you….but that’s not gonna happen
I'm not expecting Moretti to be the starting PG next season, but why not the backup, especially if Epps leaves as appears likely? We don't need to see Shannon, Rodgers (or Hawkins if he stays) trying to play PG next season when our starting PG, an expected veteran transfer, is resting.
Why bring Moretti on if he doesn't fill an obvious need for you and you don't believe he can help much over the next two years? I highly doubt that a kid from Italy is gonna stick around over the next two years if he sees little PT. Maybe he won't deserve it, and in that case it wouldn't be much of a loss, but you've essentially wasted a scholarship.
 
#808      
I'm not expecting Moretti to be the starting PG next season, but why not the backup, especially if Epps leaves as appears likely? We don't need to see Shannon, Rodgers (or Hawkins if he stays) trying to play PG next season when our starting PG, an expected veteran transfer, is resting.
Why bring Moretti on if he doesn't fill an obvious need for you and you don't believe he can help much over the next two years? I highly doubt that a kid from Italy is gonna stick around over the next two years if he sees little PT. Maybe he won't deserve it, and in that case it wouldn't be much of a loss, but you've essentially wasted a scholarship.
because you're not going to get 2 starting caliber PGs, at least not for 2 seasons in a row. You also really need a PG to win. Furthermore, you're never going to play 12 man rotation. So if you are going to spend a scholarship on a guy as a backup, it's at PG.

If Moretti develops into a starter, awesome, lucky us. If he develops into a solid 10-15 mpg backup PG, cool. If he doesn't develop, he will probably leave. But our team was a turnover machine. Part of our struggles this year was we didn't get great PG play at all. Skyy and Epps were both ok, not great assist guys, and neither played great defense. But as mediocre as they were as PGs, we struggled to bring the ball up the court when neither of them were available.

So in conclusion, someone who can handle the ball and facilitate the offense is very important, even if they're not a capable scorer. Thank you for attending my TED talk.
 
#809      

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SKYY to Louisville
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a good cbb stat site?

I'm trying to calibrate my stats-based expectations for portal options, by gaining some perspective on the efficiency of league players this past season.

Some of the patterns I'm seeing are fascinating, but I'm not sure how reliable the data is that I'm finding so far.

According to stats pulled from CBS's site, thirty B10 players attempted over 100 threes AND made at least 32% of them (Matt and Terrence being our only two). We also had two of ten players who shot at least 100 at a rate lower than 32% (Coleman and Jayden).

Sorting this list by percentage, it's interesting to find that 18 of the 22 most efficient shooters were concentrated on just 6 teams (Indiana, Rutgers, Nebraska, and Northwestern each had one player in the top 22) ...

* MSU players at 1, 3, and 5 (all shooting 42.3% or higher)
* PSU players at 6, 9, 13, and 14 (all shooting 37.5% or higher)
* WIS players at 7, 12, and 16 (all shooting 37.1% or higher)
* OSU players at 8, 15, and 17 (all shooting 36.9% or higher)
* MICH players at 10, 18, and 19 (all shooting 35.5% or higher)
* IOWA players at 21, 22, 25, and 26 (all shooting 33.3% or higher)

It's also fascinating that none of these six teams had anyone shoot at least 100 threes at a percentage lower than 33.3%.

Northwestern, Maryland, and Illinois were similar, in that each team had two guys in the 32-34% range AND two guys in the sub-32% range. The other four sub-32%'ers were singles from Nebraska, Purdue, Minnesota, and Rutgers.
 
#814      
Every major conference team has at least 5 guys that can guard Podz.

Lower conference teams might have one or two. A lot easier to scheme him open when 4/5 players on the court can’t guard him.

If he played enough to score 10ppg for us, how many would he be responsible for on the other end?

Name the guy on each big ten team Podz can guard.
I get it.. you rather have Skyy and Epps then?
 
#822      
From my view in the cheap seats, MM and Epps are both dudes with tudes. Addition by subtraction x 2.

Please bring in shooters that will listen to da staff and .......... MAKE SHOTS!!
Skyy appears to have been a cancer. The cancer gets cut out no matter what.


Epps seemed like someone put in a bad position who tried their best, and it wasn't good enough. Yelling at someone who is already trying their hardest, and knows it isn't good enough doesn't help. The videos show Epps is not the personality type to be yelled at when already down. Maybe that says IL is the wrong place for Epps. Maybe it means BU needs to learn to communicate with different players in different ways, and in different situations. Give concrete help - when they do X, you do Y, vs. do your job you MF. On the court, Epps needs to be able to guard bigger guards. The reason for Epps to stay: If Fletch and Frazier can't fix this, who can?
 
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I noticed Kamari Lands is in the portal. Is that JCLs son?
Both are from Indy, played a La Lumiere, and they ARE related somehow. Kamari Lands info from USA basketball:

  • Brother played basketball at Tarelton State; family members also played college basketball, including Jalen Coleman-Lands at DePaul University and Isaiah Coleman- Lands at Miami University of Ohio.
 
#824      
Both are from Indy, played a La Lumiere, and they ARE related somehow. Kamari Lands info from USA basketball:

  • Brother played basketball at Tarelton State; family members also played college basketball, including Jalen Coleman-Lands at DePaul University and Isaiah Coleman- Lands at Miami University of Ohio.

Kamari and Mrs. Coleman have two children (Jalen and Isaiah) ... is my guess.
 
#825      
Are we really calling that a bump? C'mon. BU probably should ease up a little on a freshman on national TV while still communicating his point, but for all of the talk of Baltimore-tough, Epps should be able to stand up straight and take it if he expects to take the heat of high D-1 basketball. That is the weakest "bump" I would have expected for all of the attention that it's drawn -- looks much more like a kid trying to get to the bench and end the brow-beating.
 
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