Govoner Vaugn Fan
- New Orleans
Actually, there isn't much difference between the two states.Not reading the notifications as I realized my sleep deprived brain does not know the difference in Kentucky and Tennessee today
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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Nojus is Transferring down 79th street to St Lawrence. The mass exodus continues at St Rita.
247Sports ranks Illini commit Morez Johnson as top player in state for 2024 class
Illini commit Morez Johnson rises in 247Sports' updated rankings, putting him as the top player in the state for 2024.247sports.com
Morez up to #44 overall and #1 in IL. JB still listed in IL, but down to #88 overall and #3 in state behind Nojus.
sleep deprived and .... what is the other state? LOL
Mulcahey isn't even in the same stratosphere as Hunter for me in terms of rooting against.
It seems like decisions are being made to try to win games this year and not have a down year in the name of 'program building', which would probably be the end for Underwood.
I don't know how you do 'long term program building' in the portal era though. Doesn't matter how much you play a guy, he still has the same choice to leave. Underwood's had 4 different kids start at least 10 games as true freshmen who still left after that season, and a couple more regular starters who left after their sophomore years. And he isn't alone in that, there are like 2-3 transfers per D1 program every offseason now.
I get how longtime college basketball fans would rather get a bunch of freshmen and coach 'em up, but that's just not feasible anymore. That's a cross-your-fingers-and-hope-they-don't-leave game.
Joel Goodson
- ties will be resolved
lol, 2 frosh guards, who played a ton, bolted. damned if you do, damned if you don't
Perhaps this is correct.
At the same time, there are businesses that are known for good employee retention and others that aren't. It's not luck. It's picking the right people and treating them right.
I think the sample size for every team in the country is too small to draw conclusions yet. But at some point it will become clear. And I suspect that we'll see some correlation in results.
You have any idea "what" is going on at 77th and Western? I know Coach Russell left, and now their very talented Jr. guard is transferring to Simeon. Unreal.
I know the board has moved onto Mulcahy, but are we not even reaching out here?
Maybe not. We know Coleman's stipulation on returning had a lot to do with whether or not we were going to bring in experienced guards vs freshman guards.
Followed his coach .
Yeah I mean, right now pretty much every team is losing kids every year.
Are there some programs having success by keeping their kids around and not dealing with transfers? Maybe a few but I can't come up with any off the top of my head. Izzo got all high and mighty about transfers last offseason with the "I'll stick with the team I've got" line, but what he left out of that was the team he had was led in scoring by - you guessed it - two transfers, they just had joined the team the previous offseason. There were 69 transfers in the Sweet 16 this year.
How many teams this offseason didn't have anybody leave? I haven't seen that number anywhere but it's gotta be relatively close to zero.
Our roster is constructed almost perfectly for next year with a veteran pg like Mulcahy. You don’t risk risk next year’s success with an unproven freshman pg. The only exception would be a for sure one and done but what’s really the difference at that point.
NASchamp
- Atlanta
Agree. Next year worries me as well. But in the portal era I think this is a little more normal. I also think this is a ‘make or break’ year for Underwood so you see the emphasis this year on getting older players who know how to win in college. That may not necessarily be good for the program in the long-term but he can’t really worry about that right now with how ‘warm’ his seat has gotten.
I like to hangout with realists anyways! I don’t want some orange and blue kool aid 24/7
chiefini
- Rockford, Illinois
As a resident of Rockford, I resemble that remark!
What happened at St. Rita? Or is this just the HS version of the portal.
Also, can we really be openly linked to players for this upcoming season when we’re full on scholarships? That’s gotta be in poor taste. Not saying we can contact them but just seems weird to basically saying yeah someone isn’t coming yet year.
Also, can we really be openly linked to players for this upcoming season when we’re full on scholarships? That’s gotta be in poor taste. Not saying we can contact them but just seems weird to basically saying yeah someone isn’t coming yet year.
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Walk-on Transfer from Depaul?
Max Williams Career Stats - NCAAM - ESPN
Complete career NCAAM stats for the Illinois Fighting Illini Guard Max Williams on ESPN. Includes points, rebounds, and assists.
Let’s be honest, we’re not exactly in a position to be selective on PG, there’s certainly not a lot of names left out there and there’s still a chance we don’t add anyone else
They ARE two of the states that recognize that when someone there gets divorced, they are still legally brother and sister . . . .
Actually!
Krombopulos_Michael
- Aurora, Illinois (that’s a suburb of Chicago)
Was traditional HS recruiting declared dead last month or was I dreaming ?
It seems like a lot of folks around here will be calling for Underwood's head if we had a "down year". The consensus seems to be that he needs to build a sustainable pipeline of freshmen, and also win right now.
It's really hard to do either, let alone both...at the same time.
If I were him, I'd be doing exactly what he's doing... Trying to win as many games in the coming season as possible and figure out next year, next year.
Could it blow up in his face?
Of course!
Could bringing in a bunch of freshmen blow up in his face?
Also yes.
Could bringing in a bunch of transfers?
Yep.
There is nothing fool proof or long term about today's CBB climate. You build for now, all the time. Nothing is promised next year.
If you don't win, neither is your job.
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