So is Z Ivicic actually going to commit to Illinois?
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Agreed, which is why I'm using Ben's projected minutes next year to judge whether we have a successful offseason or not lol. But it sounds like its not guaranteed he's even back, so prob just too early to think about.
At this point likely not. we can't count on it at the very least.
You just described 0-19. Probably means that to get to 34%, the other games weren't that bad.
Agreed. I won't begin to pretend Ben was a huge success but if he's here again next year as a depth piece I won't complain. If he shoots 40%+ he probably makes his way into the 15-20 minute range but if it's another season of up and downs that lead to 34 or below he's probably in the 5-10 minute range.
People forget that there were games he looked every bit as advertised. A guy that could go 4-6 from 3 in a blink.. unfortunately just way more of the 0-4s or 1-6s along with struggles defensively
Also, as far as BU goes... For me he owns this more on the evaluation front then the playing time front. I love that he's a players coach and lets his guys work through struggles. By the time it really mattered( postseason) the playing time had adjusted
I would get so frustrated whenever he tried to back down a defender. He never passed out of it, and I don't remember him ever making a shot with that play. Every time it happened, 100% chance of an awkward shot that wouldn't fall.
yep, doing the math that would put him 38-39% in the other 30ish games.
I'm not responding to you specifically here because I don't know your entire stance on this issue, but just generally:
I do think that if we as fans expect "loyalty" from Illinois players to the school/program, then it probably does make sense that there be some sort of unwritten social contract where we do the best we can to keep the criticism from becoming personal or unduly excessive.
And yes, the NIL added to the mix complicates that, but if we are serious about the whole "famILLy" thing, then I do think there should be some limits on the ragging.
And don't take this to mean that we shouldn't criticize at all, or even think and say that a player's roster spot would be put to better use by a different player - I'm just saying that I think there's a line somewhere, and I try to do my best to keep well clear of it as best I can.
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Feel like the heat is more on Ben because fans are blaming Ben for Morez leaving. Again, all of this falls back on Underwood. That's why he gets paid the big money, and takes all of the stress of running this NIL roster construction. I think he's worth the money until he proves he can't reload a roster.
Did you seriously just put Ben in the same sentence with the greatest shooter of all time?
Did you seriously just put Ben in the same sentence with the greatest shooter of all time?
I did not compare them in any way, whatsoever (which I think is what you are trying to imply)
The fact you recognize he is the greatest shooter of all time and also has went 0-7, you've now soundly defeated your own argument
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
I didn't mind the original flurry, but the repetitiveness did get old. Kind of like Mrs. Fernsby.
You would think they’d learn that what they hear on these sites cannot be taken as gospel. It is merely “information” that these “insiders” have heard and they share.
It may ultimately turn out to be good info or bad, but most of the time we don’t know until after a decision has been made.
I’m happy they share the info here, but I’ve been around too long and fooled too many times…learned my lesson long ago.
Take it for what it’s worth and don’t count on anything until the ink is dry.
Personally, I have no problem with Hummer on next season's roster. That said, he must shoot 10,000 8 ft. fadeaways with an Ivisic on him until he is making them at a % he missed them last season. He had no problem getting that shot but had a horrendous % of makes. Adding that to his game would be a huge plus for the team. If he can do that and continue his effort to improve aggressive rebounding, better defense, and raise his arc %, he can turn around the viewpoint of Illini fans. He does not seem to be a detriment in the locker room at all and BU certainly thinks he can be that guy off the bench.
What should be learned is that kids are fickle, advisors are generally looking after their own personal interests, and those kids seem to have little regard for the coaches and programs willing to make them millionaires at 20 years old. For certain, too many players and coaches will say anything. Paying a 21 yo kid a million dollars to play for you is mutually exclusive to getting his total attention, passion, and will to win, especially for one year...and that little tidbit of truth is what has ruined college hoops.
Have seen this movie to many times to expect a different outcome. I just enjoy the ride and see what we have come Fall.
Go Illini
Come on, nobody would buy that happening. Now Coleman Hawkins being a new assistant coach, that'll get the people going!
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
I watched every game. I would bet BH was 50% on those back-downs. And when he missed, the shots were typically short, hitting the front of the rim.
Is Nolan Traore looking to maybe trying college after a year that saw some struggles? If so, let's get him.
I think Sarr probably ends up in the NBA draft. If he does, didn't we look at Hugo Gonzalez last year?
There's a reason why I was so hesitant on the Dix recruitment. Something felt off despite most people saying Illinois was in the lead. Still think we were for a good portion but his heart was likely always at home.
Maybe Josh paid Coleman to sabotage KSU so that Tang would get fired and Brad would take the role, leaving the door open for Sean Miller or Chris Beard. Now he's trying to get him here for another year so Coleman can blow this season and fire Brad.
People are talking.
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