Kansas 34, Illinois 23 Postgame

#151      
What I noticed in the presser:
BB had his head DOWN most of the time. He usually has his head up looking out to the press... NOT THIS TIME ! ! !

We are NOT tough, strong and reliable... we are NOT fast, tough and dependable... That's why football head coaches get LONG term contracts to turn programs around. It usually takes a long time to develop young men into good players... Many will say 'but the Portal'.. Yes, and what you get is NOT always a great FIT for your system, so you end up going BACK to it over and over. NOT a good long term solution. For 2-3 decades we have been bad to poor... Yes, we caught lightning in a bottle 2 or 3 times... But that's it... last year we caught some lightning, and now it's back out of the bottle... We have a good CEO at the helm IMHO... We just need more time. We need better coaching, we need better teaching, and we need more talented young men to play IF we want to be respectable on a regular basis... JMHO... Oh yeah, My first game: JC Caroline vs scUM 1953....
 
#152      
My takes on the Illini:

1. When it's really hot out, why doesn't Bret go with a lighter shirt?
2. Aaron Henry may be out of his league.
3. Luke Altmyer will be a stud for us. Love his skill and grit.
4. Josh McCray seemed slow to me, and not capable of breaking big runs. Why are we not giving teams a dose of Reggie Love and Feagin so that we are not wearing down our defense? Our time of possession has been awful.
5. Why are the coaches not cleaning up the post play extracurricular shoving and jawing? Do you think Tom Osbourne, Joe Paterno, or Bobby Bowden would have tolerated this? One or 2 dumb penalties like this can be the difference in the game.
6. Who is responsible for scheduling Friday night games? This needs to stop.
7. We seem to be playing to lose instead of playing to win. We showed in the 2nd half what we can do, but too little too late. Play calling is everything, which I believe falls on Lunney.
8. Hoping the law firm will reopen after a 2 week hiatus.
9. Our Specials Teams game seems ok.
10. It's a long season, with a lot to play for. Correct some of this above, and maybe we can catch Penn State sleeping.
Joe Paterno, famous for tolerating negative extracurricular activities.
 
#153      

blackdog

Champaign
As far the defense goes they have been able to get pressure on the QB but the first two opponents have had QBs with elite escapability and have been able to make guys miss. I think it will be more noticeable against less athletic QBs (basically the majority of the opponents the rest of the season).

Something that has been bothering me is the amount of missed tackles and guys getting their ankles broken. That generally points to being behind the play and taking bad angles to the ball. Hopefully they can get that cleaned up quickly or it's going to be a long season.
 
#154      
As far the defense goes they have been able to get pressure on the QB but the first two opponents have had QBs with elite escapability and have been able to make guys miss. I think it will be more noticeable against less athletic QBs (basically the majority of the opponents the rest of the season).

Something that has been bothering me is the amount of missed tackles and guys getting their ankles broken. That generally points to being behind the play and taking bad angles to the ball. Hopefully they can get that cleaned up quickly or it's going to be a long season.
+1 on the tackling. More than a few times we turned what should have been 2 yard inruns into 10.
 
#155      
on that faux comeback... we're down 11... right tackle gets blown by on first and second down... that ended our momentum. i feel for the RT, that speed move has to be tough to handle... needed help, even the announcers said it... anyway, i wish we had given our QB the time he needed to make the comeback
 
#156      
This is a 5 or 6 win team most likely. BB seems to recruit lines and LB's very well so I think he gets us back on track in a year or two for big Bowlin. This year though, will about about how far Luke can take us.
 
#158      

altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
My takes on the Illini:
1. When it's really hot out, why doesn't Bret go with a lighter shirt?
Self-consciousness?
2. Aaron Henry may be out of his league.
May well be the case. Goodness, I hope not.
3. Luke Altmyer will be a stud for us. Love his skill and grit.
(y)
4. Josh McCray seemed slow to me, and not capable of breaking big runs. Why are we not giving teams a dose of Reggie Love and Feagin so that we are not wearing down our defense? Our time of possession has been awful.
He actually looked much better to me in the second half and had some nice runs.
5. Why are the coaches not cleaning up the post play extracurricular shoving and jawing? Do you think Tom Osbourne, Joe Paterno, or Bobby Bowden would have tolerated this? One or 2 dumb penalties like this can be the difference in the game.
Don't get me started. Had I not been in a bar last night I would have been screaming repeatedly at the monitor about this.
6. Who is responsible for scheduling Friday night games? This needs to stop.
TV networks. It's completely Benjamin-driven, of course.
7. We seem to be playing to lose instead of playing to win. We showed in the 2nd half what we can do, but too little too late. Play calling is everything, which I believe falls on Lunney.
We came out flat, got stuffed on offense and shredded on defense from the outset. Not until the drive at the end of the half did we show any spark. Then they went through us again like a hot knife through butter in a minute.
8. Hoping the law firm will reopen after a 2 week hiatus.
Frankly, they should be sued for malpractice given the pre-season hype and boasting. Did Butkus ever preen like that?
9. Our Specials Teams game seems ok.
Better than OK, IMO. Tight. Nice not to worry about at least one component of the kicking game for a change.
10. It's a long season, with a lot to play for. Correct some of this above, and maybe we can catch Penn State sleeping.
Agreed. They need to show up on both sides the ball early. I felt hungover this morning and had only two beers over a four-hour period last evening.:cautious:
 
#160      
+1 on the tackling. More than a few times we turned what should have been 2 yard inruns into 10.
A lot of the comments on here plus reading the box score seem to all point to bad defensive coaching. I’m no expert but 534 yards is the coaches are terrible or the players simply overmatched. Are our players overmatched? Then it must be coaching. Lack of prep. Bad schemes. Bad technique.

Better turn this ship around
 
#161      
Astonished on the lack of speed on the defense. Slow to respond and deliver a timely tackle. Wasn't thinking the coaching staff would become a top subject this soon.

A lot of people noticing, most of the game we were not hitting and driving them backwards, we were chasing them.
 
#162      
I think that I will go back to taping the games, so that I can fast forward through the commercials and halftime. I quit on this game sometime during the 3rd quarter. I can not remember the last time I did not watch the whole game. Two games into the season and the defense can not stop anything wide, and offensively Illinois has not found a way to run the ball. Illinois looks like they have a legitimate QB, but the protection has to improve.
 
#165      
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#170      

the national

the Front Range
Ok. Thought about things. Cooled off.

This is now the real rebuild. Beleima squeezed all the blood from the stone, peaking last year, and now we really start the rebuild. Can he coach this group up? How good of a developmental coach is he?

I like him. I hope he’s got the touch. His 101 is sorely needed with this group.

the starters have issues but the primary issue (IMO), is that the 2deep needs to get better in a hurry.
 
#172      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky
Self-consciousness?

May well be the case. Goodness, I hope not.

(y)

He actually looked much better to me in the second half and had some nice runs.

Don't get me started. Had I not been in a bar last night I would have been screaming repeatedly at the monitor about this.

TV networks. It's completely Benjamin-driven, of course.

We came out flat, got stuffed on offense and shredded on defense from the outset. Not until the drive at the end of the half did we show any spark. Then they went through us again like a hot knife through butter in a minute.

Frankly, they should be sued for malpractice given the pre-season hype and boasting. Did Butkus ever preen like that?

Better than OK, IMO. Tight. Nice not to worry about at least one component of the kicking game for a change.

Agreed. They need to show up on both sides the ball early. I felt hungover this morning and had only two beers over a four-hour period last evening.:cautious:
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#173      

mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
Missed the first week with my observation post, but didn't want to miss this one:


(1) It's obvious to everyone, the offensive line is very concerning. Let's talk the bad: Crisler's PFF blocking grade is in the single digits, which seems impossible. There are 405 tackles who have completed at least one passing block rep this season, Crisler is ranked 393rd and he has the lowest grade of all tackles with at least 35 pass blocking snaps. Pearl's numbers are miles better than Crisler, but still sluggish. This is the crux of the offensive issues - one of your tackles has the worst pass blocking grade in the country and the other is below average. There are options to course correct, but there isn't a sure-fire solution. You could move Adams to right tackle and decide on the right combination of Slaughter - Crisler - Gesky for the guard spots. The issue here is you take your best guard and move him to a position where his performance is likely reduced. Plus, Adams is the only guard on the team that has a solid run and pass blocking grade, the others are a mixed bag. The other options are bringing in Henderson (true freshman) or Whitenack (redshirt freshman). Both have long-term potential, both had some buzz from camp, neither has played a meaningful snap this year. Whitenack has a few snaps last year, but not enough to judge his performance.
(2) Keep in mind everything I said above, Altmyer has been better than advertised. With a revolving door on his front side, he's shown an ability to move the offensive with his arm and legs. He's showed some toughness through two games. His eyes drifted down against Kansas, but that's understandable (still needs to be cleaned up). Teams will start changing things up on him, so we'll see how he adjusts going forward.
(3) Running game looked better against Kansas. Illinois was behind so quickly that it couldn't be utilized. It's possible that Kansas was content with letting Illinois pick up 6 yards/carry with a big lead. Offensive line run blocking grades are much better than pass blocking, so finding a way to become more balanced on offense will be manna from heaven.
(4) Interior defensive line was much improved against Kansas compared to Toledo. Good adjustment from the stars and the coaching staff there. With the way the OLBs are playing, Illinois is going to need peak Newton + Randolph 100% of the time to have a chance. Another good sign is all of the nose tackles are also putting up solid grades on PFF (Daxon, Edwards, McConnell).
(5) Roughly on pace for have two, 25-catch TEs this year. Moore has a pair of really good hands. Reiman is more balanced. Could be the best pair of pass-catching tight ends at Illinois since late 2000's.
(6) All of the linebackers have been awful. The Kansas game has to be one of the worst linebacker performances in a while for Illinois. Odeluga with a bunch of missed tackles. Rosiek getting cooked in coverage. Barnes doing the terrible combo of bad rushing defense and poor coverage. All of the edges/OLBs are struggling too, sans Alec Bryant.
(7) The coming storm is the run defense has been awful. Lots of focus has been made on the inexperience of the Illinois secondary. Toledo made a mistake not leaning on their running game more in the second half. Kansas did not repeat that mistake. With many B1G West QBs struggling to start the year, Illinois is going to have to prove they can stop the run. Newton and Randolph showed they can help revive some of the pass rush. Stretching the field, zone-read concepts have been shredding this team. Seeing lots of comments about Bailey coming back will be a big lift, but will it? What's the answer for stopping the run?
(8) Special teams has been much improved. Robertson's average, hang time, and inside-20 numbers are all substantially higher. Griffin has been perfect, deep kickoffs. Coverage has been great. Coaching hire looks excellent.
(9) Secondary - Miles Scott has proven he's a starter and solid. Nicholson has been okay. His coverage numbers are good but he has 40% of the defensive penalties on the season, which is bananas. Bush has been as advertised, solid but unspectacular - someone you would rather have as one of your top reserves instead of starting. Xavier Scott has been good in run support (might be the only one) but coverage has been awful. Strain has been bad. McCantos looks like he needs another year before he can contribute effectively in lots of snaps. Similar to our feelings about the assumed strengths and weaknesses across the roster, it's actually been the safeties who look better than the corners. This is part of the complication of Bailey returning. Him coming back is still an obvious positive, as it might give Illinois' defense more personnel flexibility. That said, it would be more comforting if Illinois had an experienced and dynamic cornerback that was returning this week because of how poorly the unit has played in the first two weeks.
(10) Wanted to end this on a couple positives. Two weeks ago we collectively felt good about the offensive line except center. Kreutz has been excellent. He has the second-best pass blocking grade in the country. He's also in top-30 for run blocking. This is where you can dream of this offensive line gelling as they progress into the season; Kreutz is showing great promise and Adams will be one of the best guards in the conference (if he stays there). If Crisler moving back to guard brings back his 2021 version, then your interior offensive line is set. Pearl's grades are average and likely to increase if the interior line is set based on his experience. It takes some squinting, but you can believe that finding a right tackle will unlock this offensive line.
(11) It's possible that Illinois has played the two most explosive offenses of the season in weeks 1 + 2. Toledo put up 70+ this week against a crummy opponent (regardless, 70 points...). Kansas proved last year they were excellent on offense and destroyed Illinois' defense this week. The positives for the defense going forward is (a) they haven't faced dynamic QBs like Finn and Daniels recently and won't face another for the rest of the season, (b) Illinois' defense has had a history of slow starts the past two seasons and their performance so far align with said history, and (c) a new DC that had to be expected to take some lumps. The negative is that Penn State has shown an excellent offense so far and FAU's offense looks much improved.
 
#174      
Missed the first week with my observation post, but didn't want to miss this one:


(1) It's obvious to everyone, the offensive line is very concerning. Let's talk the bad: Crisler's PFF blocking grade is in the single digits, which seems impossible. There are 405 tackles who have completed at least one passing block rep this season, Crisler is ranked 393rd and he has the lowest grade of all tackles with at least 35 pass blocking snaps. Pearl's numbers are miles better than Crisler, but still sluggish. This is the crux of the offensive issues - one of your tackles has the worst pass blocking grade in the country and the other is below average. There are options to course correct, but there isn't a sure-fire solution. You could move Adams to right tackle and decide on the right combination of Slaughter - Crisler - Gesky for the guard spots. The issue here is you take your best guard and move him to a position where his performance is likely reduced. Plus, Adams is the only guard on the team that has a solid run and pass blocking grade, the others are a mixed bag. The other options are bringing in Henderson (true freshman) or Whitenack (redshirt freshman). Both have long-term potential, both had some buzz from camp, neither has played a meaningful snap this year. Whitenack has a few snaps last year, but not enough to judge his performance.
(2) Keep in mind everything I said above, Altmyer has been better than advertised. With a revolving door on his front side, he's shown an ability to move the offensive with his arm and legs. He's showed some toughness through two games. His eyes drifted down against Kansas, but that's understandable (still needs to be cleaned up). Teams will start changing things up on him, so we'll see how he adjusts going forward.
(3) Running game looked better against Kansas. Illinois was behind so quickly that it couldn't be utilized. It's possible that Kansas was content with letting Illinois pick up 6 yards/carry with a big lead. Offensive line run blocking grades are much better than pass blocking, so finding a way to become more balanced on offense will be manna from heaven.
(4) Interior defensive line was much improved against Kansas compared to Toledo. Good adjustment from the stars and the coaching staff there. With the way the OLBs are playing, Illinois is going to need peak Newton + Randolph 100% of the time to have a chance. Another good sign is all of the nose tackles are also putting up solid grades on PFF (Daxon, Edwards, McConnell).
(5) Roughly on pace for have two, 25-catch TEs this year. Moore has a pair of really good hands. Reiman is more balanced. Could be the best pair of pass-catching tight ends at Illinois since late 2000's.
(6) All of the linebackers have been awful. The Kansas game has to be one of the worst linebacker performances in a while for Illinois. Odeluga with a bunch of missed tackles. Rosiek getting cooked in coverage. Barnes doing the terrible combo of bad rushing defense and poor coverage. All of the edges/OLBs are struggling too, sans Alec Bryant.
(7) The coming storm is the run defense has been awful. Lots of focus has been made on the inexperience of the Illinois secondary. Toledo made a mistake not leaning on their running game more in the second half. Kansas did not repeat that mistake. With many B1G West QBs struggling to start the year, Illinois is going to have to prove they can stop the run. Newton and Randolph showed they can help revive some of the pass rush. Stretching the field, zone-read concepts have been shredding this team. Seeing lots of comments about Bailey coming back will be a big lift, but will it? What's the answer for stopping the run?
(8) Special teams has been much improved. Robertson's average, hang time, and inside-20 numbers are all substantially higher. Griffin has been perfect, deep kickoffs. Coverage has been great. Coaching hire looks excellent.
(9) Secondary - Miles Scott has proven he's a starter and solid. Nicholson has been okay. His coverage numbers are good but he has 40% of the defensive penalties on the season, which is bananas. Bush has been as advertised, solid but unspectacular - someone you would rather have as one of your top reserves instead of starting. Xavier Scott has been good in run support (might be the only one) but coverage has been awful. Strain has been bad. McCantos looks like he needs another year before he can contribute effectively in lots of snaps. Similar to our feelings about the assumed strengths and weaknesses across the roster, it's actually been the safeties who look better than the corners. This is part of the complication of Bailey returning. Him coming back is still an obvious positive, as it might give Illinois' defense more personnel flexibility. That said, it would be more comforting if Illinois had an experienced and dynamic cornerback that was returning this week because of how poorly the unit has played in the first two weeks.
(10) Wanted to end this on a couple positives. Two weeks ago we collectively felt good about the offensive line except center. Kreutz has been excellent. He has the second-best pass blocking grade in the country. He's also in top-30 for run blocking. This is where you can dream of this offensive line gelling as they progress into the season; Kreutz is showing great promise and Adams will be one of the best guards in the conference (if he stays there). If Crisler moving back to guard brings back his 2021 version, then your interior offensive line is set. Pearl's grades are average and likely to increase if the interior line is set based on his experience. It takes some squinting, but you can believe that finding a right tackle will unlock this offensive line.
(11) It's possible that Illinois has played the two most explosive offenses of the season in weeks 1 + 2. Toledo put up 70+ this week against a crummy opponent (regardless, 70 points...). Kansas proved last year they were excellent on offense and destroyed Illinois' defense this week. The positives for the defense going forward is (a) they haven't faced dynamic QBs like Finn and Daniels recently and won't face another for the rest of the season, (b) Illinois' defense has had a history of slow starts the past two seasons and their performance so far align with said history, and (c) a new DC that had to be expected to take some lumps. The negative is that Penn State has shown an excellent offense so far and FAU's offense looks much improved.
Nice write-up. There have been a billion posts in this thread about our lack of speed on defense, but it's the playing out of position, missing assignments, and boneheaded mistakes that are really what's killing us, especially the linebackers. Jacas alone had 2-3 times where if he played his assignment, we could have bottled the play up for a short gain. Instead he bit on the fake every time instead of keeping discipline, resulting in big gains. Our coaching staff cannot and will not continue to allow that kind of stuff to happen.

We've not looked good in many phases of the young season, but if we fix the RT position and get the defense to understand assignment sound football, I think we'll give ourselves a chance to salvage 6 or 7 wins.
 
#175      
I’m not disappointed we lost, just how we lost. Baffling how our veteran players are out of position and missing assignments along with just getting out toughed. Pearl and Crisler were brutal at times and on D we lost containment over and over. The base defense is surely about the same so why our fundamentals looks so poor I just don’t get. We left some receivers too open, but I credit Kansas with with some great calls and their receivers made some unbelievable catches when they were covered. Do we see some personnel changes next week? Feels like we need a bye week to get our heads straight.
Is it possible we changed from a tactician to more of a cheerleader at DC? Making no accusation. Just get the feeling based on interviews I've seen with the former and current DCs. Would be interested to hear observations from insiders like Indy and 0440.