Michigan State 80, Illinois 78 Postgame
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Interesting quote from Izzo: “Wow. Just another day in paradise, I guess. I know I said this before the game and after the game, but I think Illinois is the best TEAM in the league. I am not slighting us, Purdue, or Michigan. I just think they are that built,” Izzo said, per Spartan Shadows. “Brad Underwood is a good coach. The scary thing is they did that without Jakucionis." Love him or hate him, but he ain't wrong. The Illini came thisclose to winning despite facing a perfect storm of uneven (a polite term) officiating, poor three-point shooting, poor free-throw shooting and a technical foul that proved to be the margin of defeat. I don't even mention missed layups any more as that seems to be a feature, not a bug.
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Not how I saw it. Appears to me to be more of a both putting their foot down in the same spot situation with KJ getting his down first. Normally this is a no call play on with most officials but not when Izzos team is involved.
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If this is a fould(especially ticky tack fouls on the best player on the court - this simply doesnt happen in the modern era) then there should be 250 fouls called a game.
Anyways - national guys, even Sleeper(Cart is a huge MSU fan) are calling the refs out here - while some of you are vehemently defending the refs and Sparty - weird hill to die on.
KJs foot is there - Mich St player moves his foot into his foot and then sells the foul.
If this is a fould(especially ticky tack fouls on the best player on the court - this simply doesnt happen in the modern era) then there should be 250 fouls called a game.
Anyways - national guys, even Sleeper(Cart is a huge MSU fan) are calling the refs out here - while some of you are vehemently defending the refs and Sparty - weird hill to die on.
KJ definitely got his foot planted first.
Might be the rule but I have never seen that called before and I have been watching basketball for over 50 years.
Joel Goodson
- how was I to know, she was with the Russians too?
rule #1: don't make a call unless you SEE an infraction. no place for assumption/anticipation. yeah, it's a very quick game, calls will be missed. that said, yesterday's game was flippin' egregious
Yes, that is one of the most hypocritical edifices ever erected by a group.Must be quite the cross for you to bear.
Joel Goodson
- how was I to know, she was with the Russians too?
rule #2: a no call is infinitely better than a bad call
Multiple truths:
-KJ got hosed one at least two of the 5 calls
-Reffing is hard, mistakes happen
-KJ should’ve been more careful at times given his foul situation
At the end of the day, we had more than a shot at winning this game without our best player and (arguably) our second best player dealing with an illness. Riley played extremely well. Morez was a positive as well and I thought Ben played adequate. Boswell cannot be a 15+ min PG, he needs to focus on being less adventurous. White needs to get his mojo back. Maybe we aren’t a good 3 pt shooting team.
This team is the most talented in the BIG and that will not change for the remainder of this year barring injuries.
-KJ got hosed one at least two of the 5 calls
-Reffing is hard, mistakes happen
-KJ should’ve been more careful at times given his foul situation
At the end of the day, we had more than a shot at winning this game without our best player and (arguably) our second best player dealing with an illness. Riley played extremely well. Morez was a positive as well and I thought Ben played adequate. Boswell cannot be a 15+ min PG, he needs to focus on being less adventurous. White needs to get his mojo back. Maybe we aren’t a good 3 pt shooting team.
This team is the most talented in the BIG and that will not change for the remainder of this year barring injuries.
About 10 years ago, UCLA was involved in a play in which the ball went in on the final seconds. Play was close, but likely behind the backboard. Was ruled out of bounds.
On the replay, I thought I saw it graze the backboard.
NASchamp
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That's the other part of this missed opportunity. I have no doubt we'll dismantle MSU in Champaign later in the season. But we could have been the first to show that they are way overhyped by beating them at home. Handing #12 their first B1G loss of the season in their place on national TV is a lot bigger deal than beating them later in Champaign after they've already lost a few.
Said before game we needed the version we saw against Oregon, Indiana, Arkansas. Also felt we needed average games from KJ, Tre, Boswell.
We didn't gave Tre or KJ, shot poorly from 3's and free throws. Also missed some layups. Our Bench and rebounding was awesome. Despite all this we lost by 2. KJ plays 25+ minutes we win by 10.
We had the talent, they had the crowd and the refs.
We didn't gave Tre or KJ, shot poorly from 3's and free throws. Also missed some layups. Our Bench and rebounding was awesome. Despite all this we lost by 2. KJ plays 25+ minutes we win by 10.
We had the talent, they had the crowd and the refs.
The funniest part is the all the Michigan St fans going on and on about how the 4th foul was so clearly KJ grabbing the arm. Even though the Mich St extended his full arm into KJ pushing him to the ground. The other fouls were minor and if was Mich St jersey the whistled is getting swallowed.
Brad should start having his guys practice falling after every layup because as we see the refs don't know what's happening and they see a player on a ground and its an instant whistle.
Yes you should win that game based on missed shots and opportunities but going on the road to Mich St that's bound to happen with how they play defense. But to take not just the bet scorer but the primary ball handler is detrimental. I love Kylan but he is not at the level KJ is with this type of pressure.
On to the next .... Illinois by 30 vs Maryland
Would bet Painter and Izzo both run flopping g drills in practice. Penn. St. and possibly others.
Honestly, I’m over this game. We moved up 2 spots in the rankings. Every objective observer knows the refs changed the outcome. Now we start our winning streak. Next up.
How could anybody not be happy with Brad Underwood as the coach of the ILLINI?!! Everything about him, his approach, his transparency, his style, and obviously the performance creates quite a package for the fans.
Any idea if illinois submitted, or plans to submit anything to B10 or NCAA about the obvious calls. Oddly enough, their were few other questionable calls
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