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Ramrod2010 said:
That last series (as well as another series where they got 1st and goal) by Rodgers and the Packers offense was poor. It felt like they were forcing the plays unnecessarily.

Also, as great as Rodgers is, to be 1-4 in Conference Championship Games isn't a good look.
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I thought it looked like Rogers could have run it in on third down. Also what about the bonehead decision to kick a field goal there to get within five points?
 
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Illiniaaron said:
I thought it looked like Rogers could have run it in on third down. Also what about the bonehead decision to kick a field goal there to get within five points?
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I've found the recent infusion of statistics into sports fascinating. Certain ones I put more stock into others as I have a hard time believing that you can capture enough data to get a worthwhile result (like win probability based on certain calls in a football game).

That said I'm pretty sure intuition and statistics would have agreed yesterday that kicking a field goal down 8, at that point in the game, doesn't do anything to actually increase your chances of winning the game.
 
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GilThorpe

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fatal flaw for GB was giving up the last second TD in first half. Rodgers could have and should have run it in with 2:30 to go in the game, and LaFleur not going for it from the 4 yard line on 4th down was VERY QUESTIONABLE. made very little sense to me .
 
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Illiniaaron said:
I think he ends up with Denver, Indy, or New England.
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All possible, and if Stafford had a choice, I’m sure he’d pick Indy, a playoff caliber team that just needs a QB. He’d fit right into Rivers’ vacated spot and the team wouldn’t miss a beat.
 
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champaignchris said:
More likely Stafford to 49ers, 49ers release Garoppolo, Garoppolo signs with Bears.
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Bears need to upgrade the offensive line or it doesn't matter who we have at quarterback because they won't be successful! The battles are won in the trenches! You see how Rodgers looked yesterday when his line couldn't protect him. (The MVP) of the NFL according to most. I don't see how they could fairly measure any of the quarterbacks ability with the offensive line we've had the past two years!
 
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Fr8trn16 said:
Bears need to upgrade the offensive line or it doesn't matter who we have at quarterback because they won't be successful! The battles are won in the trenches! You see how Rodgers looked yesterday when his line couldn't protect him. (The MVP) of the NFL according to most. I don't see how they could fairly measure any of the quarterbacks ability with the offensive line we've had the past two years!
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I think they found something with Mustipher at center. If they get Daniels back at one guard and with Whitehair at the other, that’s a solid young interior to the line.

Tackle is a disaster. But those should be fixable with upper mid round draft picks and/or relatively modest free agent signings.

Finding a better QB is going to be much more difficult.
 
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champaignchris said:
I think they found something with Mustipher at center. If they get Daniels back at one guard and with Whitehair at the other, that’s a solid young interior to the line.

Tackle is a disaster. But those should be fixable with upper mid round draft picks and/or relatively modest free agent signings.

Finding a better QB is going to be much more difficult.
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I agree... we should have addressed the line last draft but didn't until the way later rounds. I just hate the narrative about the quarterback in Chicago who has very little experience compared to players like Stafford, Rodgers, etc., and has to play behind one of the worst lines in the NFL hands down. Foles even stated that he knew plays that were called by Nagy would not work before they even attempted to run them because they wouldn't have enough time to execute. That's ridiculous. And media blame it all on the quarterback who can't block for himself to give him time to throw and the receivers time to run the routes to get open and gain separation, or for the running back to gain yards and hit a hole. That's why I think Beilema is going to help here, because he is going to focus on that! Which will make our offense and defense way better!
 
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IlliniFaninHoosierLand

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Interesting bit of trivia I heard today. There are now 5 schools that have produced both a Super Bowl winning QB and a U.S. president. Without Googling (or going on wikipedia or at least having heard it mentioned on the Score today), anyone wanna take a guess as to which 5 schools they are?

There's probably at least one school that most won't get as it's not one that would immediately come to mind.
 
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I have no idea what number 5 is.

I did figure out that one school actually had 2 SB winning QBs.

I forgot that Plunkett went to Stanford, too.
 
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IlliniFaninHoosierLand

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The 4 you guys stated are correct. The 5th (and the reason I said that it's not one that would come to mind for most) is Miami (OH), Benjamin Harrison and Ben Roethlisberger.
 
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Illwinsagain

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What does it say that I guessed a school, with NO idea who the President would have been?
 
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