NFL Thread 2021-2022

#329      
Nagy literally said after the game that they had worked on the wildcat play for 4th and 1 situations all week.

SO THEN WHY DID YOU HAVE TO CALL A TIMEOUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PLAY WAS?!?!?!?
 
#332      
Guys in the know like Tom Waddle and Kaplan have said for the last 2 years Pace is universally loved in that building and he isn't going anywhere. He will be promoted to a different position in the building at worst so his finger prints will still be all over this thing. He's a made man up there and I have no idea why.

Seems like he might be their new Ted Phillips.
 
#333      
Geneseo, IL
Guys in the know like Tom Waddle and Kaplan have said for the last 2 years Pace is universally loved in that building and he isn't going anywhere. He will be promoted to a different position in the building at worst so his finger prints will still be all over this thing. He's a made man up there and I have no idea why.

Seems like he might be their new Ted Phillips.
So would Ted Phillips become George Halas or something? ;)
 
#334      
Nagy denies he’s been told he’s been fired in a really awkward press conference.

Leave it to the Bears to make Nagy into a sympathetic figure by having him twist in the wind like this.
 
#335      
Geneseo, IL
#336      
Guys in the know like Tom Waddle and Kaplan have said for the last 2 years Pace is universally loved in that building and he isn't going anywhere. He will be promoted to a different position in the building at worst so his finger prints will still be all over this thing. He's a made man up there and I have no idea why.

Seems like he might be their new Ted Phillips.
Genuinely asking, does anyone have any insight?

Putting it gently, his tenure has been ghastly. A quick track record:
1) First coaching hire: John Fox.
2) First draft pick (Round 1, Pick 7): Kevin White, WR, now out of the league.
3) Second first-round draft pick: Trades up for Mitch Trubisky who is now a backup in Buffalo.
4) Second coaching hire: Matt Nagy.
5) Two wild card losses in the playoffs in 2018 and 2020.

My brain can't comprehend how this resumé can lead to someone to failing upward in an organization.
 
#337      
Genuinely asking, does anyone have any insight?

Putting it gently, his tenure has been ghastly. A quick track record:
1) First coaching hire: John Fox.
2) First draft pick (Round 1, Pick 7): Kevin White, WR, now out of the league.
3) Second first-round draft pick: Trades up for Mitch Trubisky who is now a backup in Buffalo.
4) Second coaching hire: Matt Nagy.
5) Two wild card losses in the playoffs in 2018 and 2020.

My brain can't comprehend how this resumé can lead to someone to failing upward in an organization.
Fox wasn’t Pace’s hire. Ernie Accorsi recommended both Fox and Pace to the Bears. Pace obviously agreed to take the job with Fox as the coach, but we have no idea if Fox was the guy he would have hired had he had the chance to bring in his own guy.

There’s some question as to how much input and control Fox had in personnel decisions while he was there. Right or wrong, the Bears ownership essentially gave Pace a clean slate after he fired Fox and hired Nagy.
 
#338      
The other thing I haven’t gotten is it doesn’t seem like the offense is geared towards Fields’ strengths. So my question is did Pace discuss Fields with Nagy before taking him to see if he would fit in the offense? Were there conversations about how the offense could be adapted to fit Fields’ strengths? Or were there no conversations at all?

Just seems like a disconnect between what Nagy wants to do and what Fields is good at.
 
#339      
The other thing I haven’t gotten is it doesn’t seem like the offense is geared towards Fields’ strengths. So my question is did Pace discuss Fields with Nagy before taking him to see if he would fit in the offense? Were there conversations about how the offense could be adapted to fit Fields’ strengths? Or were there no conversations at all?

Just seems like a disconnect between what Nagy wants to do and what Fields is good at.
This is the exact same thing that happened with Trubisky.
 
#340      
Genuinely asking, does anyone have any insight?

Putting it gently, his tenure has been ghastly. A quick track record:
1) First coaching hire: John Fox.
2) First draft pick (Round 1, Pick 7): Kevin White, WR, now out of the league.
3) Second first-round draft pick: Trades up for Mitch Trubisky who is now a backup in Buffalo.
4) Second coaching hire: Matt Nagy.
5) Two wild card losses in the playoffs in 2018 and 2020.

My brain can't comprehend how this resumé can lead to someone to failing upward in an organization.

The amount of times he failed the first time on a position, and was still trusted to get a second shot at fixing it is also really crazy.

Kevin White failed so you have to go out and pay Allen Robinson.

Adam Shaheen failed he goes out and wildly overpays Jimmy Graham and gets another shot to bring in a highly drafted TE in Kmet

Trades up to take Mitch as the first qb in the draft (failed) so he brings in Foles (failed) goes out and pays 10 mil for Dalton who he could have had the year before for 1/5th of the price so now is paying both of those guys.

Leonard Floyd failed so he has to spend top dollar on Robert Quinn.

Doesn't draft any tackles in 6 years then trades up for a guy with a broken back who can't play leaving your brand new franchise qb with no protection.

There is probably more but this being someones resume and just keeping their job is insane, this guy is going to get a PROMOTION.
 
#341      
I listened to Nagy's presser today and it sounded like he knew he was gone. Even when he was asked the question about whether he's been told he'll stay on through the end of the season, he basically dodged the question and said he's just focused on this week's game.
 
#342      
One suggestion I did hear today (in addition to firing Nagy and Pace) was moving Ted Phillips into a Crane Kenney type role having Phillips be the president of business ops (which he's honestly better suited for anyway) and then hiring a president of football ops to oversee the GM and coach.