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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Wow. The Bears are just one big, epic fail. I feel like that game was just a microcosm of the whole organization.
I swear I'm not trolling: I really don't understand the criticism of Eberflus and Getsy.

This is not an NFL football team. They got handed a tank job in order to clear the salary cap books for next year, when a ton of higher grade players can be brought in. Fields is being left to run for his life because that's all they have. They're playing comically conservative football because that's all they have.

And yet, they're 6-for-6 playing competitive games into the 4th quarter. I'm not sure what more you want from this roster. If you don't like what you're seeing just stop watching, the only point of this season for the course the organization has set is just for it to end.
 
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I swear I'm not trolling: I really don't understand the criticism of Eberflus and Getsy.

This is not an NFL football team. They got handed a tank job in order to clear the salary cap books for next year, when a ton of higher grade players can be brought in. Fields is being left to run for his life because that's all they have. They're playing comically conservative football because that's all they have.

And yet, they're 6-for-6 playing competitive games into the 4th quarter. I'm not sure what more you want from this roster. If you don't like what you're seeing just stop watching, the only point of this season for the course the organization has set is just for it to end.

I think the criticism with Getsy is that he's trying to make Fields play like Rodgers.
 
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I'm genuinely curious what you mean by that. How so?

Basically that he's trying to run a similar style offense to what Green Bay does. When you're doing that with Fields at this point, it's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. When the Ravens drafted Lamar, they suited offense to what Lamar actually could do, not what they wanted him to do.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Basically that he's trying to run a similar style offense to what Green Bay does. When you're doing that with Fields at this point, it's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. When the Ravens drafted Lamar, they suited offense to what Lamar actually could do, not what they wanted him to do.
The Ravens had other good players around him.

The Bears can't protect Fields, and if you can't protect your QB there's not a lot anybody is going to be able to do. You can't scheme around that.

Getsy is just making do with what he has. Fields running around and making off-schedule plays puts more pressure on defenses than anything he could draw up.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Basically that he's trying to run a similar style offense to what Green Bay does.
Also to this point it's 58% run vs 41% run. Totally different usage of fullbacks and tight ends. It's not a similar offense. It's not the 2019 Ravens offense either, but the personnel isn't here for that to end in anything but disaster.

And part of that is Fields who isn't the same kind of grab-it-and-flick-it passer Jackson is, or Kyler Murray is. He's not a quick read and react guy, and his career may be short because of it. And you can't develop away from that if your receivers can't win matchups on the outside and the pocket is always collapsing on you. Everything good happens for him when he goes off-script. That's exactly what Mike Martz said, that is the story here.
 
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I think the criticism with Getsy is that he's trying to make Fields play like Rodgers.
I don’t think they’re trying to get Fields to play like anything.

They’re not trying to develop him. Every single action they’ve taken this year shows they don’t think he’s the guy. Or at least, won’t be the guy in a timeframe that makes sense to bother. They’re running their offense. If Fields miraculously shows that he’s Superman, fine. Otherwise, they’re not bothering to adjust their roster or game plan for a player whose rookie contract is going to run out before the Bears think they’ll be competitive.
 
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I think if you gave Poles truth serum, he’d say that his biggest disappointment so far this season is that Quinn hasn’t made more big plays to justify a better draft pick when they inevitably trade him in a few weeks.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
I think if you gave Poles truth serum, he’d say that his biggest disappointment so far this season is that Quinn hasn’t made more big plays to justify a better draft pick when they inevitably trade him in a few weeks.
He wouldn't trade that for the Eddie Jackson resurgence though, that's been the biggest positive of the year. That is no longer an albatross contract.
 
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That is no longer an albatross contract.

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Illiniaaron

Geneseo, IL
Would you consider Hurts a better running QB than Fields?
I was exuberant after Field's scramble at the end of the game, let me clarify. He might be the best qb scrambler off broken plays/heavy pass rush I've seen. They don't call any running plays for him. Not even when it would make sense.
 
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I was exuberant after Field's scramble at the end of the game, let me clarify. He might be the best qb scrambler off broken plays/heavy pass rush I've seen. They don't call any running plays for him. Not even when it would make sense.
You mean when we are in the redzone....?
 
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Clayton Fejedelem sighting (tackle for little to no gain) in the Sunday night game for the Dolphins.
 
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