I remember Lovie's press conferences during Bears days.....Rex is our quarterback....lol
NFL Thread 2022-2023
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Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
Fields has been really bad today.
NFL announced this afternoon that Rihanna will headline the Super Bowl halftime show next February. There had been rumors earlier this week that Taylor Swift was going to headline the show but a deal never came to fruition. The show will also be the first under a new sponsorship deal with Apple Music, replacing Pepsi as the presenting sponsor of the halftime show.
Well it was an ugly game between two bad teams but the Bears still get the win over Houston.
Most surprising score of the early games has to be the Colts upsetting the Chiefs 20-17.
And now this Bills-Dolphins game is getting silly late.
They were dying at the end of that game, crazy.
That's one of the built in advantages that the Dolphins have early in the season is the heat and humidity in South Florida. Patriots actually flew down to Miami on Tuesday before week 1 game just to get their bodies used to what they would have to deal with.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I want to quote what Mike Martz said about Fields before the season that created a bit of a tizzy in the Chicago media.
"Fields is a guy that makes a lot of mistakes and is not particularly accurate at times. He’s not a quick read-and-react guy, and he’s on a horrendous team. But I don’t know if I’ve seen an offense that bad in talent since the 0-16 Detroit Lions (in 2008). They just don’t have anybody there. … It’s a bad football team right now.
And, when you put a guy behind a bad offensive line and you have no talent at wide receiver and you tell him to just go make big plays, he’s going to learn bad habits. You start doing stupid stuff just trying to survive.
I also have questions about whether he can really react fast. I think he’s a talented guy as a passer, but you don’t know how to evaluate him because he just doesn’t have anything around him."
That's what we're seeing. I feel bad for the kid, from the second he was drafted he never had a chance. If there were justice in the world Bryce Young or whoever would pull an Eli Manning and refuse to let this franchise lay a finger on him, but that's not really the way the game works anymore.
That's a terrible Texans team at home and Week 1 was in a hurricane, in due course I am fully confident this will reveal itself to be one of the worst offenses the league has ever seen, but you really have to give Luke Getsy some credit for making this chicken salad out of, uh, what he was provided.
It's not that throwback power football always *works* per se in the NFL, but it always makes more plays than you'd expect. It's not what NFL defenses were built to stop.
I will admit this much, I listed a small group of offensive players for the Bears who would see regular snaps for any other team and I did not list Khalil Herbert. Looks like that was incorrect, he has a real suddenness to him. More than a passing resemblance to Chase Brown actually for an undersized guy who runs with real violence.
Ken Dorsey, how did you feel about the end of today's Bills-Dolphins game?:
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aka "Captain Oblivious"
- Cynthiana, Kentucky
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
We all know the personnel around Fields is bad. But I'm also getting tired of watching him miss wide open receivers on some of the few plays when they are open. In the SCORE pregame yesterday Patrick Mannelly said he re-watched the Packers game and there were many instances in which receivers were open, especially "NFL open," in which Fields just wouldn't pull the trigger. I don't see how you can be a good NFL qb with a hesitancy to pull the trigger while also being an inaccurate thrower. I suppose the latter plays into the former.I want to quote what Mike Martz said about Fields before the season that created a bit of a tizzy in the Chicago media.
"Fields is a guy that makes a lot of mistakes and is not particularly accurate at times. He’s not a quick read-and-react guy, and he’s on a horrendous team. But I don’t know if I’ve seen an offense that bad in talent since the 0-16 Detroit Lions (in 2008). They just don’t have anybody there. … It’s a bad football team right now.
And, when you put a guy behind a bad offensive line and you have no talent at wide receiver and you tell him to just go make big plays, he’s going to learn bad habits. You start doing stupid stuff just trying to survive.
I also have questions about whether he can really react fast. I think he’s a talented guy as a passer, but you don’t know how to evaluate him because he just doesn’t have anything around him."
That's what we're seeing. I feel bad for the kid, from the second he was drafted he never had a chance. If there were justice in the world Bryce Young or whoever would pull an Eli Manning and refuse to let this franchise lay a finger on him, but that's not really the way the game works anymore.
That's a terrible Texans team at home and Week 1 was in a hurricane, in due course I am fully confident this will reveal itself to be one of the worst offenses the league has ever seen, but you really have to give Luke Getsy some credit for making this chicken salad out of, uh, what he was provided.
It's not that throwback power football always *works* per se in the NFL, but it always makes more plays than you'd expect. It's not what NFL defenses were built to stop.
I will admit this much, I listed a small group of offensive players for the Bears who would see regular snaps for any other team and I did not list Khalil Herbert. Looks like that was incorrect, he has a real suddenness to him. More than a passing resemblance to Chase Brown actually for an undersized guy who runs with real violence.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Oh don't get me wrong, Fields is awful and it's very possible he'd have been awful even with the early 90's Cowboys around him. It all ends in the same place, he does not have a future as an NFL QB and is not the answer. If Poles had truly believed he was special he'd have made different decisions with this team.
And in this team he'll be so hopeless there won't be clamoring to see what he looks like with a better supporting cast around him by the time December rolls around. It's probably likelier he gets benched somewhere along the way, if he doesn't get hurt.
And look, it's gross and an indictment on the NFL that two straight GM administrations have used Fields purely as a narrative management instrument, the whole thing is a really ugly farce, but I'm a Bears fan, I hope they can get it together next year and beyond with a new QB. 14 more of these ridiculous sideshows to go.
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
I was thinking myself during the game what it might take for Fields to get benched in favor of Simien. That would be a huge story in itself. Another unfortunate thing is that if you take a gander at the Bears' schedule this season, there are a lot of bad/mediocre teams there. Games that could be won but won't be.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Siemian would be equally helpless with this roster, and whatever Fields' faults, he can run for his life and improvise on the run better than many.
The benching I would like to see is Larry Borom, who is actually kinda sorta okay in run blocking but is one of the worst pass pro tackles I've ever seen. No way is Borom part of the future and there's no way on earth Reilly Reiff, a has-been who at least at one point could play, would be worse.
Bucs relocating to South Florida on Tuesday and will use the Dolphins' training facility through the end of the week if they need to with Hurricane Ian set to hit Florida's west coast on Wednesday into Thursday.
Chiefs at Bucs is still set to be the Sunday night game though if Tampa is unable to host the game, they won't have it in Miami as the NFL doesn't want to risk using state resources to host a game there that could be better used in Tampa in the aftermath of the hurricane.
If they do have to move the game, they would likely move it to a neutral site in the Midwest like Minneapolis.
Chiefs at Bucs is still set to be the Sunday night game though if Tampa is unable to host the game, they won't have it in Miami as the NFL doesn't want to risk using state resources to host a game there that could be better used in Tampa in the aftermath of the hurricane.
If they do have to move the game, they would likely move it to a neutral site in the Midwest like Minneapolis.
KBLEE
- Montgomery, IL
The Bears' management is banking on losses. Unfortunately for them, the team has won 2 ugly games. As badly a Fields has played, and as poor the personnel around him, the Bears are 2-1 and have a better record than half the teams in the NFC. Name one pundit that predicted that one correctly.
If this team made the playoffs as the lowest seed it would be absolutely hilarious. What could be more bears like than trying to do something but doing the exact opposite.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
The Bears are 32nd in amount of their cap spent on their active team, the Texans are 31st (and actually have more dead cap than the Bears do). The Bears were Vegas favorites in that game for maybe the last time this year, we'll see.
As for week 1, hey man, stuff happens. Silly weather games toss out the playbooks sometimes.
I'll be shocked if this team wins 6 games. But Eberflus was given the mission to keep things respectable and competitive. So far so good from his perspective.
I actually thought they had a chance to start 2-1 before the season. For me the wild card on whether they'd start with that record was the Week 1 game vs. San Francisco. I figured they'd get killed by Green Bay but beat Houston.
The game this Sunday with the Giants could be interesting as it appears Daboll is okay with Daniel Jones not having much protection from his o-line.
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