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ChiefGritty

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Justin Fields' Surroundings Give Him "Absolutely No Shot of Developing"

“Don't think for one second you can make any kind of evaluation on Justin Fields this year.”
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Mr. Tibbs

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Bears are crap and the McCaskeys should be embarrassed .
Imagine the frustration of all the 63,000 people who are still investing loads of money and 8-10 hours of time on a Sunday afternoon to watch that team
 
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Illiniaaron

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As bad as Wilson has been for the Broncos, Bears fans would be doing cartwheels if Fields threw for 274 yards in a game.
 
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ChiefGritty said:
Yeah, I mean it's important to note that a couple of flashes of improvisation notwithstanding, Fields is still hitting none of the development milestones of a starting quarterback in the NFL let alone a star and with unequivocally the worst supporting cast in the league it is guaranteed that he will not and the new Bears regime is essentially just burning him and letting his failure be an excuse to blame the Pace/Nagy regime for everything.

The salary cap situation Poles inherited was a total mess, I can see why aggressive tanking looked like an appealing option, but I'm not sure they've really thought through the implications of using Fields as a cynical sacrificial lamb this way.

And as a Bears fan, it's pretty exhausting to have both the old regime and the new engaging more in job-justifying propaganda campaigns than trying to build a winning football team in the last two years, and I don't know why the media continues to go along with it.
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ChiefGritty said:
Preaching to the choir, man.

Only a total clueless failure of an organization would allow a clearly win-or-be-fired Ryan Pace to trade future draft capital to move up and take a quarterback. He openly booby trapped the roster on purpose in broad daylight in a cynical effort to preserve his job and the Bears leadership just let it happen. Just astonishing stuff.

Now, none of that is Ryan Poles' fault. What is his fault is using that quarterback as a media propaganda vehicle to mask the stink of his cynical, maximalist tanking rather than turning him into an asset that can help with that process. Just really ugly stuff, and I feel terrible for Fields who has been treated as a narrative pawn rather than a football player by both of the GM regimes in his short career that is going to be over before it ever starts.

The NFL isn't like other leagues, I don't want to get too mad about bottoming out in a season that was going nowhere anyway, and Poles will be judged on whether he can put a decent roster together and identify the QB to lead it over the longer term. But that QB is not Fields, and if you believe otherwise, it's important to understand and recognize that Poles doesn't and never has.
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I'm ashamed as a Bear Fan but......after these 1st 4 games I'm leaning in your direction Gritty....
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IlliniFaninHoosierLand

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Illiniaaron said:
Huh?
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Since Luck retired before the 2019 season, they have not drafted a true developmental QB. Only QBs they have drafted since then are Jacob Eason who was out of Indy after his 2nd season and is now a practice squad guy in Carolina and Sam Ehlinger who has been nothing more than a backup since they drafted him. And Irsay seems like a win now type of owner who wouldn't be on board with a rebuild that would take several years under a young QB. That's why since Luck retired, they've acquired castoffs from other places like Rivers, Wentz, and Ryan.
 
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IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
Since Luck retired before the 2019 season, they have not drafted a true developmental QB. Only QBs they have drafted since then are Jacob Eason who was out of Indy after his 2nd season and is now a practice squad guy in Carolina and Sam Ehlinger who has been nothing more than a backup since they drafted him. And Irsay seems like a win now type of owner who wouldn't be on board with a rebuild that would take several years under a young QB. That's why since Luck retired, they've acquired castoffs from other places like Rivers, Wentz, and Ryan.
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I get that but I thought you were trying to make a point about the Bears by referring to the Colts?
 
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