NIL Thread (Name, Image, Likeness Rule)

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Ransom Stoddard

Ordained Dudeist Priest
Bloomington, IL
This thread needs a bump with some news.

NCAA approves new NIL rules to help athletes 'protect themselves'

Starting in August, the NCAA will provide athletes with standardized contract recommendations for NIL deals and aggregated data to help schools and athletes have a more realistic picture of the going rates for endorsement deals. The association also plans to create a voluntary registry of credible and trusted agents that will be based largely on feedback from the athletes who have worked with them in the past.

"We don't want to do anything to get into the way of student-athletes trying to activate their NIL rights, but we do want to assist them in essentially protecting themselves," MAC commissioner and Division I Council vice chair Jon Steinbrecher said. The council voted on the new rules during the NCAA's annual convention this week.

In addition, the council formally proposed new rules that, if passed, will be able to help facilitate deals between athletes and NIL collectives -- a move that would likely return some degree of control over roster management back to athletic departments and teams on campus. The schools, and any associated NIL collectives, will still be prohibited from negotiating deals with recruits or transfers before they enroll.

I figured it was only a matter of time til the NCAA tried to make themselves relevant with NIL, but this looks like theater to me. Standardized contracts are fine, but I'd hope that the schools were already finding ways to help the student athletes in areas like this.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL

"It's a very difficult time in college basketball, because it's free agency," the first-year St. John's coach said Saturday. "And now I think what's going to happen is, they're going to say everybody can transfer, and then if they don't like it, they're going to take 'em to court.

"So, I think the NCAA enforcement staff just should be disbanded. It's a joke. Not because I dislike them. But they're of no value anymore. Because just, Tennessee now will take 'em to court, Virginia will take 'em to court."

It's not clear that there is any restriction on player freedom the NCAA can get to stand up in court. The pro sports are able to exist in a controlled, rule-based environment because they have collective bargaining agreements to which courts are obliged to defer (in addition to antitrust exemptions in some cases).

Some version of that has to be where this is going.
 
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It's not clear that there is any restriction on player freedom the NCAA can get to stand up in court. The pro sports are able to exist in a controlled, rule-based environment because they have collective bargaining agreements to which courts are obliged to defer (in addition to antitrust exemptions in some cases).

Some version of that has to be where this is going.
Rick Pitino complaining about the NCAA’s lack of enforcement power is rich!
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage



It's not clear that there is any restriction on player freedom the NCAA can get to stand up in court. The pro sports are able to exist in a controlled, rule-based environment because they have collective bargaining agreements to which courts are obliged to defer (in addition to antitrust exemptions in some cases).

Some version of that has to be where this is going.
which is all the more reason for the Power 2 to make an agreement without any interference from the other conferences & schools .

Once the B1G & SEC agree among themselves , others will either agree , to keep rules the same (but not revenues ) , or we will have 2-3 organizations governing FBS & FCS football & basketball
 
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which is all the more reason for the Power 2 to make an agreement without any interference from the other conferences & schools .

Once the B1G & SEC agree among themselves , others will either agree , to keep rules the same (but not revenues ) , or we will have 2-3 organizations governing FBS & FCS football & basketball
I don't disagree, but won't the B1G/SEC alliance just creat a new version of . . . . The NCAA . . . which will quickly be sued once someone decides that life's not fair . . .
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
I don't disagree, but won't the B1G/SEC alliance just creat a new version of . . . . The NCAA . . . which will quickly be sued once someone decides that life's not fair . . .
the power 2 need to quickly help establish a CBA with a new to be created student athlete group
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
which is all the more reason for the Power 2 to make an agreement without any interference from the other conferences & schools .

Once the B1G & SEC agree among themselves , others will either agree , to keep rules the same (but not revenues ) , or we will have 2-3 organizations governing FBS & FCS football & basketball
Why would the Power 2 have any greater success in the courts than the NCAA?

They could potentially be a more sensible structure with which to sign a CBA with a union of players, but the antitrust vulnerability would be pretty obvious if they started purporting to be a comprehensive national league.

I am not saying I have the answer here. But I think it would be a big mistake to think the Power 2 have the capacity to snap their fingers and bring a new order into being. It's just more petty gangsterism amidst a totally anarchic landscape.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
I dont know that the P2 can figure it all out, but I do know this, trying to get 133 football programs , in 7-8 conferences or independent on their own, wont be able to agree on what time to start the meeting, or what kind of bagels & cream cheese to have

you got to start somewhere
 
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Riiiiiiight.

Hypocrisy GIF
 
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Not sure if it’s relevant to this, but Dartmouth doesn’t provide athletic scholarships (i. e., compensation), right? Further, why would the NLRB ruling (as worded in the tweet) relate to only men’s basketball (and not other sports)?

IMO, assigning employee status to school athletic team members opens up many cans of worms. Worm-loving lawyers must be salivating at this prospect.
 
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the players will lose if they go against the universities. Look at the attendance for every other amateur athletics league that is not the NCAA. Without the draw of the university no one is watching a far inferior product to the professional ranks. They're certainly not going to pay hundreds of dollars for tickets, and won't sell out 100,000 person stadiums. They won't get paid even close to what they make in NIL. They won't get a free education on top of it all, and thousands of kids will lose the opportunity all together.

So if i were these college athletes, I wouldn't push my luck.
 
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Not sure if it’s relevant to this, but Dartmouth doesn’t provide athletic scholarships (i. e., compensation), right? Further, why would the NLRB ruling (as worded in the tweet) relate to only men’s basketball (and not other sports)?

IMO, assigning employee status to school athletic team members opens up many cans of worms. Worm-loving lawyers must be salivating at this prospect.
The NLRB has never met a case it couldn't decide in favor of "labor". It will be interesting to see if this ends up in a courtroom outside the very limited purview of labor courts, arguing that as the athletes are not "employees" of the university, then the NLRB has no jurisdiction. IANAL.
 
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