Ohio State 42, Illinois 19 Postgame

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335, is Ok for Mountain West Conference and if you have a Mike linebacker called Brian Urlacher. Horrible for major college ball.

"These cornball antics may play in the sticks, but this is Capital City."

 
#81      
Sadly, this was Illnois' 11th straight loss to the Buckeyes (post-game screen graphic). Hope the spell can be broken one of these years!

The Beloved made a great effort today. And Ohio State does not Walk on Water... yet, anyway.

BUT when you play Ohio State you have to realize that you’re playing an NFL franchise. Seriously. Ohio State fields almost an entire front line of NFL-caliber players every season. Every season’s NFL draft proves this. That’s what happens when your institution has an embedded culture of scooping up a steady stream of ‘Fives’ all the time. Decade after decade.

There’s only a handful of teams that can field players of an equal or sometimes greater nature than Ohio State. That’s why even with NIL in place it’s still the same old names at top all the time – with the recent exception and inclusion of Indiana.

There has been and remains a Caste System in major College Athletics. Maybe eight truly elite and dominant programs. And then, everybody else.

And there is nothing that seems on the horizon to change this in any major way if at all.
 
#82      
This clip is concerning. Bret likes to let his coordinators take the reigns, but if Hauck is the guy responsible for f*ck ups like this then I don't see how Bret doesn't become more involved the rest of the year. It reminds me of the Arizona State debacle in 2012 where the coaches couldn't clearly communicate their calls to the defense.



EDIT: Right after I post this my (our) suspicions were confirmed.
Maybe get on the sideline, Hauck?
 
#83      
80% personnel. Ohio State would have put up even more on last year’s defense.


They wouldn't have. They lost a first round WR and several other NFL players. I'm still withholding judgement on this defense as they've started to clean some things up. Still need to see a lot more.
 
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#91      
The biggest missed play of the game by the defense. Unacceptable. It’s a whole different game if they get him to the ground.
Why is it "unacceptable?" Are you saying that Cameron Thomas was dogging it? I would like to see you beat Ian Moore to the outside an tackle Sayin in one step. we missed the opportunity to cover Sayin up, but it wasn't due to lack of effort.
 
#92      
Why is it "unacceptable?" Are you saying that Cameron Thomas was dogging it? I would like to see you beat Ian Moore to the outside an tackle Sayin in one step. we missed the opportunity to cover Sayin up, but it wasn't due to lack of effort.


That's not how I read it. Just unacceptable not to get him on the ground in that situation. Thomas had him buy at that point everybody should be right there with him to get him if he slips out.

It was a good play until the finish but I'm sure there aren't going to be too many of those misses for Thomas. I would have him starting before the year is out.
 
#93      
The biggest missed play of the game by the defense. Unacceptable. It’s a whole different game if they get him to the ground.
Why is it "unacceptable?" Are you saying that Cameron Thomas was dogging it? I would like to see you beat Ian Moore to the outside an tackle Sayin in one step. we missed the opportunity to cover Sayin up, but it wasn't due to lack of effort.
That's not how I read it. Just unacceptable not to get him on the ground in that situation. Thomas had him buy at that point everybody should be right there with him to get him if he slips out.

It was a good play until the finish but I'm sure there aren't going to be too many of those misses for Thomas. I would have him starting before the year is out.
Yes, but Thomas was never in position to make the tackle - that was my point. We had three players in the backfield, but Ohio kept blocking after the play broke down. That is why Sayin was able to run through our rush.
 
#94      
That's not how I read it. Just unacceptable not to get him on the ground in that situation. Thomas had him buy at that point everybody should be right there with him to get him if he slips out.

It was a good play until the finish but I'm sure there aren't going to be too many of those misses for Thomas. I would have him starting before the year is out.
He didn't miss. Go back and watch the play, his feet were never in position to make the tackle. Which is why he reached for the shoulder pads. It wasn't for Thomas to make the play (he was chasing from an outside block). It was up to Barna and Barnett to help clean up. Go back and look - neither of them were able to get close enough to Sayin to put a hand on him. There was no failure. Ohio State did exactly what all talented offensive lineman do, when your man beats you, you turn toward the quarterback and block the next free defender. Watch the play again - Barna and Barnett got into the backfield, but they never got close to Sayin.
 
#95      
What bothers me is I know Bret is really smart and a good coach. Didn’t we realize we had some advantages on offense and a SERIOUS issue on defense? This seems like it could have been avoided and an infuriatingly wasted opportunity of a season.

I complain about the ugly-!!! Horseshoe more than anyone alive, but if I knew what our defense looked like, I’d want all $100 million of Gies’ money going toward the roster. We have put so much effort into changing the perception to “Illinois is an 8+ wins per year program” … this would be a terribly depressing year to lose that momentum.
While I agree with you - I will say it again - the poorest coaching job in Duke game was Bret. And Bret has a personal spotter in the press box. If we have 9 players on the field, we call time out. And that particular play is on the head coach, not the defensive coordinator.
 
#96      
Well, i guess we played a little better than i thought we would. 462 total yards and 199 yards rushing.
Don't think there are a lot of teams that are gonna rack up 462 yards against them, especially at their place
 
#97      
He didn't miss. Go back and watch the play, his feet were never in position to make the tackle. Which is why he reached for the shoulder pads. It wasn't for Thomas to make the play (he was chasing from an outside block). It was up to Barna and Barnett to help clean up. Go back and look - neither of them were able to get close enough to Sayin to put a hand on him. There was no failure. Ohio State did exactly what all talented offensive lineman do, when your man beats you, you turn toward the quarterback and block the next free defender. Watch the play again - Barna and Barnett got into the backfield, but they never got close to Sayin.


I basically said that everybody should be there to help him clean up. I disagree that he wasn't in position. It happens, but I don't think that will be the case furthermore.
 
#100      
Why is it "unacceptable?" Are you saying that Cameron Thomas was dogging it? I would like to see you beat Ian Moore to the outside a tackle Sayin in one step. we missed the opportunity to cover Sayin up, but it wasn't due to lack of effort.
Never said it was a lack of effort, great effort to get there, but that’s the gig. He got to the qb and didn’t finish. I’d be hard pressed to think Cam would say otherwise. And then we had another one on the same play over play it and whiffed on a one arm wrap up. Unacceptable.
 
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