Revenge for what? We recruited him and he snubbed us...It was so obvious that Liddell was using this game as a revenge factor.
Revenge for what? We recruited him and he snubbed us...It was so obvious that Liddell was using this game as a revenge factor.
Revenge for what? He spurned us, no?It was so obvious that Liddell was using this game as a revenge factor.
And the team let him. But honestly most years almost every original B10 team has a kid from Illinois on it. Not all of them go off against the Illini. Smith from IU and Eastern from Purdue didn’t kill anyone.It was so obvious that Liddell was using this game as a revenge factor.
Aside from the game flip...it appears they were averaging an offensive rebound/minute...View attachment 5824
The game flipped on this play. Trent was WIDE OPEN. He has to make that shot dammit!
Let Griffin start and let Trent come off the bench
Right...and then there's his defense. Guy never stops working on the defensive end.Do you not remember where this team was prior to Trent becoming the lead PG on the team? Trent's shooting is suffering yes, but he leads, he gets the offense going and it allows Ayo to be placed in more successful situations as an off guard PG if you will.
And the team let him. But honestly most years almost every original B10 team has a kid from Illinois on it. Not all of them go off against the Illini. Smith from IU and Eastern from Purdue didn’t kill anyone.
I get the “I was spurned by the Illini so I’ll have my career game against them” ala THT or Javon Pickett. But we WANTED Liddell to come here. Why would playing us get him all hyped up?
What is it about the fact that the Illini were involved in their lives at all make them want to dig deep and play great that other teams don’t have to deal with?
Liddell scored 14 total in his last 3 games, and 17 against us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think if Kofi comes back (which he should, he needs a lot of work on his game), with BVV hopefully healthy, Giorgi won't see the court. If this program is what a lot of us think it is, Giorgi is getting mop-up minutes or for someone in foul trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't add another big.1. Being a retired official, the officiating was quite one sided. Obviously, 3-1 advantage for Oh st, saw the same fouls on both ends of the court, but state got the calls.
2. We had shots, but can't make them. Kofi missed inside 1 footers, no one can make 3s. Can't make shots can't win.
3. No block outs on D.
4. No rebounds.
5. NO attempt to get 4th foul on K Wesson. Had a chance to get him out early.
6. DW can't guard the big guys. Put Alan in.
If it were not for Kofi, the Illini would have a losing record since Trent and Giorgi cannot make shots. If Ayo and Kofi gone next year, we will have a losing record. If Kofi stays, we have a chance of a winning record assuming Trend and Giorgi can shoot better.
In tourney, we will be lucky to win more than one game, if that, unless Trent and Giorgi can shoot better. Guys better practice and practice shooting.
keep on truckin
joe
I think if Kofi comes back (which he should, he needs a lot of work on his game), with BVV hopefully healthy, Giorgi won't see the court. If this program is what a lot of us think it is, Giorgi is getting mop-up minutes or for someone in foul trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't add another big.1. Being a retired official, the officiating was quite one sided. Obviously, 3-1 advantage for Oh st, saw the same fouls on both ends of the court, but state got the calls.
2. We had shots, but can't make them. Kofi missed inside 1 footers, no one can make 3s. Can't make shots can't win.
3. No block outs on D.
4. No rebounds.
5. NO attempt to get 4th foul on K Wesson. Had a chance to get him out early.
6. DW can't guard the big guys. Put Alan in.
If it were not for Kofi, the Illini would have a losing record since Trent and Giorgi cannot make shots. If Ayo and Kofi gone next year, we will have a losing record. If Kofi stays, we have a chance of a winning record assuming Trend and Giorgi can shoot better.
In tourney, we will be lucky to win more than one game, if that, unless Trent and Giorgi can shoot better. Guys better practice and practice shooting.
keep on truckin
joe
That is not true. When you go to the line and are fouled it doesnt count as a shot but it certainly is a possession. They had roughly 10 more possessions than we did. They out rebounded us by 7 on the offensive glass and beat us TOs by committing by 3 fewerHate to tell you, we had 77 possessions to their 72 and we outshot them from 2-3 sadly enough and were outscored by 15 in the 2nd half...oh by the way we shot 10 FT to their 28. That said I am never a blame it on the ref guy, but tonite we got homered by them.
Underwood: We did everything we wanted to defensively. OSU only made three 3-pointers.
Underwood: What we didn't foresee was just the total dominance on the glass.
Underwood: Tough shooting. Went on a 16-2 run and hard to argue with the shots we got.
Underwood: We just didn't make shots. Besides Ayo going 9-14, we have to have other guys step up.
Underwood: We recruited EJ Liddell. We know how good he is.
Underwood: The one thing that's really hard for Kofi is when he has to extend that far on defense. We had very little rhythm (due to fouls).
Underwood reiterates: "We got good looks."
It's why shot-making is such a priority in recruiting (Miller, Grandison, Hutcherson next season).
Underwood: We shot 22 threes, which is too many for us on the road.
Underwood: Frazier guards his tail off. Shut down Washington tonight. He got good looks. There will be nights that ball goes in for him
It's pretty remarkable for us to be playing at this level with Trent and Giorgi not playing even to last year's level, let alone improving.If we want to make any sort of run over the next couple of weeks, Trent simply needs to start hitting shots.
I do I do, but Ayo has evolved since then.Do you not remember where this team was prior to Trent becoming the lead PG on the team? Trent's shooting is suffering yes, but he leads, he gets the offense going and it allows Ayo to be placed in more successful situations as an off guard PG if you will.
I hope that AG would be a little more aggressive and look to shoot some of the shots he is passing on. I really think if he shot more not less he could really open things up. He had that attitude the other night when he was hot. He is the one guy i wish would shoot more from out there and have TF and some others take a few less. If we shoot 22 three AG needs half of em! lolTrent needs to make open shots or REALLY focus on play making...I love Trent, he bleeds O&B...