Pregame: Illinois at Indiana, Tuesday, February 2nd, 8:00pm CT, ESPN

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pruman91
spotter said:
Steve Welmer? He's been retired for 10 years.
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nope....this guy

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Here's reactions from coaches when they find out he is reffing their game......................

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and fans in general.......................

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#77      
TCTORNADO
Archie Miller is near term not going anywhere. First off this is a pandemic year with weird results. Secondly, Archie is signed with 100% guaranteed thru 3/2024 and a buyout that is 100% thru 3/2022 plus 50% for two years thereafter. Hoosiers historically don't like to pay for people that aren't working for them. Archie is there for at least another year and maybe 2. Go Illini
 
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pruman91
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NCAA College Basketball Rankings: AP Top 25 Basketball Poll

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RANKTEAMRECORDPOINTSPREVIOUS
1Gonzaga (61)17-01,5971
2Baylor (3)16-01,5392
3Villanova11-11,4583
4Michigan13-11,4024
5Houston15-11,3486
6Texas11-31,2285
7Ohio State14-41,13313
8Iowa12-41,0797
9Oklahoma11-496624
10Alabama14-49589
11Tennessee12-386918
12Illinois11-585019
13Texas Tech12-579710
14Virginia11-37528
15Creighton13-473217
16Virginia Tech13-371820
17West Virginia11-566911
18Missouri11-358912
19Wisconsin13-545214
20Florida State10-339316
21UCLA13-326023
22Florida10-4196NR
23Kansas11-617115
24Purdue12-6130NR
25Drake16-0117NR
Others receiving votes: Oklahoma State 111, USC 57, Loyola of Chicago 52, Minnesota 42, Xavier 25, Boise State 23, St. Bonaventure 19, Saint Louis 11, Belmont 11, Toledo 9, Oregon 8, Colorado 8, San Diego State 6, UConn 5, Louisville 4, North Carolina 3, Georgia Tech 2, Rutgers 1.
 
#79      
doowink
goillini30 said:
I actually like when refs do that. They see contact, but aren't sure if it rises to the level of a foul, so they see if it actually affects the offensive player. If a fairly simple shot is missed, they call the foul, but if the player scores they let it go. I think it helps the flow of the game and lets a ticky tac foul go. It can obviously be frustrating as a fan when it leads to a late call, but in the end I think it's usually the right call.
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I get what you're saying...but a foul is a foul....if a player going to the rim gets bumped.. call the foul....don't wait to see if the ball goes in or not....if the ball goes in that's denying the offensive player at a chance for a 3 pt. play by letting them play on....plus I think it's a really bad look for the officials to wait until a play is virtually over and then blowing the whistle
 
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goillini30
doowink said:
I get what you're saying...but a foul is a foul....if a player going to the rim gets bumped.. call the foul....don't wait to see if the ball goes in or not....if the ball goes in that's denying the offensive player at a chance for a 3 pt. play by letting them play on....plus I think it's a really bad look for the officials to wait until a play is virtually over and then blowing the whistle
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I definitely understand your point of view, and it's probably my NBA fandom that has led me to think this way because it's really common there.
 
#82      
doowink
goillini30 said:
I definitely understand your point of view, and it's probably my NBA fandom that has led me to think this way because it's really common there.
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Yea I know.....that's one of the several reasons I hardly ever watch NBA
 
#85      
FromTheLogo
TCTORNADO said:
Archie Miller is near term not going anywhere. First off this is a pandemic year with weird results. Secondly, Archie is signed with 100% guaranteed thru 3/2024 and a buyout that is 100% thru 3/2022 plus 50% for two years thereafter. Hoosiers historically don't like to pay for people that aren't working for them. Archie is there for at least another year and maybe 2. Go Illini
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I hear what your saying, and your B-ball acumen definitely surpasses mine. And ultimately, it almost always comes down to money. However, their fanbase has had excuses/reasons through his entire tenure and given him a 'free-pass':

1) These aren't his guys.
2) Hunter was hurt. If he was healthy....
3) Phinesee was concust and "not himself". If he was healthy....
4) Langford was a one-and-done. If only he would have stayed....
5) Brunk is hurt. If he was healthy....
6) At least he keeps the instate talent here....
7) COVID year with no fans....
8) Lander is too young. Shouldn't have reclassified....
9-100) Many, many others....

Outlook: They play us and Iowa this week. Ouch. The incoming class is non-existent. TJD may leave. They can't shoot. They can't hit FTs. They may not make the tournament this year and it is in their own backyard. He hasn't developed talent that well. (However, their freshmen have played decent as of late.) It seems the lack of hope looms large. If they want to replace him and the right big name coach becomes available, they just might.
 
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BRucks
IlliniGman7795 said:
Talked to a close friend over the weekend who is a big Hoosier fan. He also knows several alumni and donors. From what he said, nobody is happy with the way things are tending in Hoosierville. He personally feels that Archie should get one more year, but if they don't turn it around the rest of this year and next, he gone. Also said it wouldn't surprise him if they cut ties after this year. This is his roster now and the on court results are not good
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Some Hoosiers won't be happy with anyone not named Knight.
 
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arude8
TCTORNADO said:
Archie Miller is near term not going anywhere. First off this is a pandemic year with weird results. Secondly, Archie is signed with 100% guaranteed thru 3/2024 and a buyout that is 100% thru 3/2022 plus 50% for two years thereafter. Hoosiers historically don't like to pay for people that aren't working for them. Archie is there for at least another year and maybe 2. Go Illini
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Pandemic year or not, Archie is 0-6 vs Purdue. Another loss this year to Purdue might piss off enough boosters to make it happen.
 
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TCTORNADO
BRucks said:
Some Hoosiers won't be happy with anyone not named Knight.
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Well they've had 5 HC's since Knight you'd think one of them could have at least gotten it right. There is still a hard core group that want Alford.
 
#93      
Fighter of the Nightman
If we had come out flat vs. PSU, I would be more worried about this being a so-called "trap game." I am choosing to believe the OSU game was a turning point, and I think we come out ready to beat IU into submission. That might be wishful thinking, but hey ... my Iowa prediction AND my prediction of our ranking today were both one off. :)

#12 Illinois 78
Indiana 69
 
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Fighter of the Nightman said:
If we had come out flat vs. PSU, I would be more worried about this being a so-called "trap game." I am choosing to believe the OSU game was a turning point, and I think we come out ready to beat IU into submission. That might be wishful thinking, but hey ... my Iowa prediction AND my prediction of our ranking today were both one off. :)

#12 Illinois 78
Indiana 69
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Really glad you did not pick us by 1
 
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altgeld88
arude8 said:
Pandemic year or not, Archie is 0-6 vs Purdue. Another loss this year to Purdue might piss off enough boosters to make it happen.
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Matt Painter >> Archie Miller. Purdue is playing quite respectably this season despite its rebuilding status. Their incoming class next year is highly-rated. They've been the premier Indiana D-1 program for several years. IU is receding into the rear-view mirror under Miller. I check out the Inside The Hall blog from time to time. They've wanted him gone since December.
 
#100      
lstewart53x3
If we win both this week, we head to Ann Arbor for a top 10 match up the week after.
 
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