Pregame: Illinois vs Marquette, Tuesday, November 14th, 7:00pm CT, FS1

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#101      

skyIdub

Winged Warrior
I have exhausted myself looking at every defensive, offensive. rebounding algorithm and BU doesn't make adjustments angle. My very thorough analysis says if we hit 45% of 2's 34% of 3's and 70% of FT's, we have an 80% chance of winning.
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#103      
What is Co-Hawks primary role on the team? What should it be?

Is he is a shooter/passer?
Is he a slasher. tale the ball to the basket
A slasher, pull up and take the 2 pointer
A rebounder.
Or does he not have a well-defined role?
 
#105      
I hope so as well, especially because that’s a long time to not have a win like that at home
I mean ... we also have not LOST to a top 10 non-conference opponent at home since Wake Forest. :ROFLMAO: Those opportunities just don't come along very often. There are an absolute maximum of 10 possible opponents in a given season. If Illinois, any other Big Ten team or Mizzou are ranked in the top 10 during the non-conference season - things that have happened many times in the last 25 years - you are quickly down to a handful of options. The odds any of them are playing in Champaign in a given season are just extremely low.

It's not like we have been given the opportunity and losing the games. I mean, since 2000, these are the only RANKED teams we have played at home in the non-conference!

2000-01: W 87-79 vs. #7 Seton Hall (ILL #9)
2002-03: W 92-65 vs. #12 North Carolina (ILL #25)
2004-05: W 91-73 vs. #1 Wake Forest (ILL #5)
2006-07: L 72-66 vs. #19 Maryland (ILL NR)
2011-12: W 82-75 vs. #19 Gonzaga (ILL NR)
2021-22: L 83-79 vs. #11 Arizona (ILL NR)
2023-24: vs. #4 Marquette (ILL #23)

It's easy to skew the stats with a small sample size. Put in another, way more positive light ... we have not lost to a ranked team in Champaign while we were also ranked since at least the 1970s. (I got bored and stopped looking at that point. :cool:)
 
#106      
I did a deep dive into the statistical analysis of the Illini and compared it to Marquette. I evaluated Rebounds, Assists, Block, Steals, Turnovers, 3 Pointers Made, Free Throws Made, 2 Point FG %, 3 Point FG %, Fast Break Points, 3 Point Frequency, Assist/Turnover Ratio, Bench Points, Defensive Efficiency, Efficiency Margin, Points Per Possession, Points off Turnovers, Rebound Margin, Rebound Percentage, and Second Chance Points. I found out that if the Illini score more points than Marquette, we will win.
Question: Can you get your cousin to come in and give this team a shooting clinic before tonight's game?

Question #2: Can we please shoot tonight like it's OUR home court??
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#107      
I mean ... we also have not LOST to a top 10 non-conference opponent at home since Wake Forest. :ROFLMAO: Those opportunities just don't come along very often. There are an absolute maximum of 10 possible opponents in a given season. If Illinois, any other Big Ten team or Mizzou are ranked in the top 10 during the non-conference season - things that have happened many times in the last 25 years - you are quickly down to a handful of options. The odds any of them are playing in Champaign in a given season are just extremely low.

It's not like we have been given the opportunity and losing the games. I mean, since 2000, these are the only RANKED teams we have played at home in the non-conference!

2000-01: W 87-79 vs. #7 Seton Hall (ILL #9)
2002-03: W 92-65 vs. #12 North Carolina (ILL #25)
2004-05: W 91-73 vs. #1 Wake Forest (ILL #5)
2006-07: L 72-66 vs. #19 Maryland (ILL NR)
2011-12: W 82-75 vs. #19 Gonzaga (ILL NR)
2021-22: L 83-79 vs. #11 Arizona (ILL NR)
2023-24: vs. #4 Marquette (ILL #23)

It's easy to skew the stats with a small sample size. Put in another, way more positive light ... we have not lost to a ranked team in Champaign while we were also ranked since at least the 1970s. (I got bored and stopped looking at that point. :cool:)
Those are some blowout wins against UNC and Wake Forest.
 
#109      
What is Co-Hawks primary role on the team? What should it be?

Is he is a shooter/passer?
Is he a slasher. tale the ball to the basket
A slasher, pull up and take the 2 pointer
A rebounder.
Or does he not have a well-defined role?
I think of him as a Swiss army knife. Useful in a bunch of situations, though not really amazing at anything in particular. I think the matchups kind of dictate his role game to game. HIs defense is usually his best attribute. He can guard just about anyone. He also creates a lot of mismatches on offense, depending on the opposing personnel. He's going to find ways to impact the game, but it will likely look a little different every night.
 
#110      

sacraig

The desert
I think ball security and who controls the tempo will be key factors.

Recall that the Illini had 26(!) turnovers in the 2021 game against Marquette (without Kofi), including 5 by Coleman and 7 by Curbelo, with none costlier than the last one. Link

Will be important that Ty, DGL and the rest of the PG committee take care of the ball and don't get sped up by Marquette and try to do too much to give the seniors (plus Dain and Luke) a chance to deliver for us. Play our game, not theirs.

Will also be a good opportunity to assess whether our defense is as good as we think it is....
Ultimately, I think it comes down to who scores the most points. It's key that we are able to score more points than the Golden Eagles tonight. If we can do that, we will come away victorious.
 
#111      
I did a deep dive into the statistical analysis of the Illini and compared it to Marquette. I evaluated Rebounds, Assists, Block, Steals, Turnovers, 3 Pointers Made, Free Throws Made, 2 Point FG %, 3 Point FG %, Fast Break Points, 3 Point Frequency, Assist/Turnover Ratio, Bench Points, Defensive Efficiency, Efficiency Margin, Points Per Possession, Points off Turnovers, Rebound Margin, Rebound Percentage, and Second Chance Points. I found out that if the Illini score more points than Marquette, we will win.
Thanks for taking the time. You've convinced me.
 
#115      

band camp

STL City
We haven't put a but whooping on a team in a minute.
Tonight's the night.
 
#117      
Saw highlights from Marquette, they are much better and athletic than I thought they would be. There center and SG will be problems, they seem to know each other better than our team knows each other. Which makes sense since they return 85% of scoring from last year (or something to that effect).

Basically this is the older version of the team that beat last year's NCAA champ twice.
 
#118      
Hope it doesn’t come down to made free throws
 
#119      
Will we be able to watch this game from the beginning in the Fox Sports app? IOW, will we have to wait until the end of the previous game on FS1 to see this one?
 
#120      
Saw highlights from Marquette, they are much better and athletic than I thought they would be. There center and SG will be problems, they seem to know each other better than our team knows each other. Which makes sense since they return 85% of scoring from last year (or something to that effect).

Basically this is the older version of the team that beat last year's NCAA champ twice.
Final game last year MSU beat Marquette 69-60. Should be a fun game. It will be a tossup.
 
#125      

Retro62

North Bethesda, Maryland
What is Co-Hawks primary role on the team? What should it be?

Is he is a shooter/passer?
Is he a slasher. tale the ball to the basket
A slasher, pull up and take the 2 pointer
A rebounder.
Or does he not have a well-defined role?
Shasser and slabounder…with a good all-around doffensive game
 
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