If Key isn’t 100% it changes a lot of the math.
Pregame: Illinois vs Ohio State, Tuesday, January 24th, 6:00pm CT, ESPN
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Regarding the Big Ten and it's terrible scheduling, I read/heard/listened (don't remember where I picked this up) that our guys played 6 games in 16 days that just concluded with the Indiana game. Mich. St just concluded 6 in 15 days with the loss to Indiana on Sunday. Indiana going into game 3 of 5 within a 12 day window. Conversely Kansas has never played that type of schedule in Big 12 history.
Tacomallini
- Washington State
I like BU's suggestion of starting the season Nov 1 and space it out
Not kidding. Haven’t missed an Illinois game since 2005 (I’m 26). Watched every game in the Weber/Groce era. Watched a lot of losing for about 10 years. Obviously winning is big, but when things go sideways you cannot resort to being a keyboard warrior and talking down on teenagers and young adults. Sorry, don’t take back what I said. Say all you want about BU, coaching staff, whoever else…not the kids. They’re kids. I’m a kid still to many here. I have enough on my mind as it is, if I had to look at people constantly criticizing me every day online I wouldn’t be able to handle it. Chill out dude.
Say he makes two of 3 three’s.
Say he makes four of five free throws.
Say he gets 3 rebounds.
Doesn’t seem to far fetched. And the fact he is shooting (even in limited time) will give us a better chance than some of the bricklayers we have now.
Cheer up Nancy’s!!
CleaverName
- Chicago but not there anymore
I think I originally saw this article posted on IL but it seems relevant again based on the discussion: https://247sports.com/college/maryl...-game-has-caused-its-title-drought-201188531/
Kevin Willard: Big Ten doesn't "understand how to schedule a basketball game," has caused its title drought
by Jeff Ermann
Dec 24, 7:56 PM
Kevin Willard thinks the Big Ten's basketball scheduling is a mess and he isn't afraid to say it. The Maryland basketball coach went in-depth about it on his radio show.
"I just don't think this conference gets it from the standpoint of trying to make sure that everyone's on an equal standing, on an equal footing.
Kevin Willard: Big Ten doesn't "understand how to schedule a basketball game," has caused its title drought
by Jeff Ermann
Dec 24, 7:56 PM
Kevin Willard thinks the Big Ten's basketball scheduling is a mess and he isn't afraid to say it. The Maryland basketball coach went in-depth about it on his radio show.
"I just don't think this conference gets it from the standpoint of trying to make sure that everyone's on an equal standing, on an equal footing.
danielb927
Orange Krush Class of 2013
- Rochester, MN
The line has moved to IL - 4.0 - now that looks like some injury-related movement. Zed Key out (or seriously limited) perhaps?
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Illini Host Ohio State Tuesday - University of Illinois Athletics
After an idle weekend, Illinois returns to action Tuesday night, hosting Ohio State at sold out State Farm Center (6 p.m. CT, ESPN).
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Referees might have something to say about that.
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Glad Hummel will be on the call. Best CBB announcer out there IMO.ESPN (Brian Custer, Robbie Hummel & Myron Medcalf)
Illini Host Ohio State Tuesday - University of Illinois Athletics
After an idle weekend, Illinois returns to action Tuesday night, hosting Ohio State at sold out State Farm Center (6 p.m. CT, ESPN).
DB11Headband
- Chicago Burbs
By far
Plenty shot I am sure but how many will be made and is anyone willing to change their approach. Dainja went away from what had been working and Harris needs to look at video and see he shoves the ball (and not straight I might add). As a former coach, you step in when the fundamentals need adjusted!
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
Per player, per day......
Why do posts disappear from the board? I made a post last night that is now gone. It wasn't offensive in any sort, it was just my opinion on the conversation for the spread being -2 at the time and that Ohio St. could not logically be ranked #19 by KenPom. Backed it up with them getting zero votes on AP or ESPN poll.
Really confused
Really confused
Looking to me like were going to need to win a couple of games in the Big Ten Tournament.
This team needs "to show up every time."
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Seems odd to rate a team #26 and say they're right on the bubble. The bracket matrix has Illinois in the 6-9 range, and that seems entirely reasonable, especially with some of the good non-con wins. Definitely below expectations at 4-4 in the BIG, and not showing much consistency, unfortunately. I really don't know what makes this team tick, which concerns me. I don't see a strong identity yet, even though the team has played top level basketball in spurts. One of the most Dr.Jekyll and Mr Hyde teams I can recall.
That said, I like the players, and there's a lot of bright spots. Just an enigma as a team.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Trying to figure out what I'm supposed to be quiet about. lol
No idea about the post being removed, but sites like KenPom are fundamentally different than polls. They don't rank teams based on wins and losses, they rank them based on efficiency. Ohio St. is "ranked" 19th simply because they have the 19th highest adjusted efficiency margin as calculated by KenPom's model. Wins and losses aren't even considered.
Not picking on you specifically with this, but I think folks radically underestimate how difficult it is to shoot free throws under game conditions, and how difficult it is to change technique on something that you've been doing for years quickly, and how much more difficult it is to change under game conditions. There's a reason why college basketball players have been hitting more or less the same percentage of their free throws for years and years. (The percentage has actually been going up very slowly over time, but I think that at least part of that improvement has to do with who is shooting them since big men with limited offensive skillsets are less involved in the game than they used to be.)
I think that Harris' problem is at least partially related to what it takes to hit free throws in games. The actual challenge in making free throws isn't in taking the shot itself. We know this because every idiot on this board, myself included, can wander out to their driveway and hit seven of ten with little effort. What makes it difficult is transitioning from the mental pace and physical effort of live ball play to a state of relative calm and rest as you shoot a free throw. There are whole sports dedicated to challenging athletes around this concept. Biathlon is probably the most famous, but I'm partial to chessboxing, personally.
Anyway, we know that Harris is a high voltage player. He's extremely engaged and puts up a ton of effort when he's out there, which is why we love him. But while that's great for defense, that doesn't serve him as well on the offensive end where you need to slow the game down mentally to put the ball in the basket. I'm guessing that at least part of his struggles at the line are simply related to an inability to downshift when he needs to, and that he's probably a decent free throw shooter under less stressful conditions. The good news is that I think he can grow out of that, but we'll see.
As for changing his technique, that's a tougher sell. I think there's a theory that when people are under stress they tend to revert back to what they've practiced most frequently. It's not ironclad, but it can explain why these kids might be working on some stuff in practice that doesn't show up in games. If Harris has a flaw in his technique, that means he's shot the ball that way thousands and thousands of times and it will take some doing to have the new reps he's getting up with new technique show up under the stress of game action.
I get that you want to make your free throws and that they have an impact on the game, but I don't get why some folks put so much emphasis on hitting them relative to other more important factors. It's almost like there's some sort of moral judgment on guys who can't hit them consistently, like you should hit 90% of your attempts or else you're not trying or you have some other problem. But it's just not that easy. If it were, we wouldn't see the NCAA average free throw percentage clock in at roughly 70% year after year.
I did say that if I was a betting person and neutral, I would jump on the Illini only giving up 2 points at home against a team with 8 losses and only 4 ranked opponents. Never really thought about it, but is giving opinions on who someone would bet on not allowed even if it’s obvious that you’re not telling someone to go do that?
The board is moderated and the moderator(s) make calls on what to allow and what not to allow. I've occasionally had some disagreements about what posts get the axe and I could do without a decent share of what gets kept in, but as a general rule this place is way more pleasant than its competitors because there's a conscious effort to keep it clean.
Nobody reading this but the mods knows why posts get deleted. You might want to reach out to the site admin if you have issues, but honestly it's probably easiest to just let it go. (At the very least, we don't have answers for you.)
I'm really confused by your post. The AP poll is better at analyzing teams than KenPom's analytics? Wow. Follow up question. Is there any legit reason why there is only 1 BIG team in the top 25 AP poll? Do you think that there is only one B1G team in the best 25 teams? I don't.
I’m not going to loose sleep over it. Lol. I was honestly just trying to figure it out. Actually thought maybe I forgot to hit post reply or possibly a computer/connection issue. But then I looked on my phone and it had not refreshed and the post was there. Definitely in favor of a clean site and would never post foul language or try to be offensive to anyone. Just curious, I’ll move on now. Lol. Thanks for the response though.
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