Purdue 96, Illinois 88 2OT Postgame

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DICKnaggie

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Not sure if it's been noted yet, but Painter gave Trent a ton of love in the post game presser as to IQ, preparedness, and toughness It was great to see Trent get some of the respect he has worked so hard for these 5 years.
 
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sacraig said:
It's really easy to pin this on officiating, and they certainly didn't help, but we gave up a 17-2 run to end the first half. This was within our grasp despite officiating.
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Absolutely....we didn't get a lot of breaks from the Zeebs today....but you can't go 7+minutes in a game without scoring against an opponent like Purdue and expect to win....but yet we almost did
 
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Would have loved us to come out on the good side of a wild game. Still, there's no shame losing to a top 5 team. It's not even close to the end of the world.

Shout out to BBV for going toe-to-toe with Purdue's bigs.
 
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EyeoftheIllini

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the juiceman cometh said:
I think most will agree officiating on the whole is bad. I think the issue some take is that some fans genuinely believe there is a league-wide conspiracy to screw over our team. There isn't. Every fan base has fans that think this. It's Hanlon's Razor: never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Except you can sub out "stupidity" for "incompetence." They're not out to get us. They just miss calls, and despite what many on here believe, some games it inures to our benefit, some games to our detriment.

The one caveat I'd add is Kofi does get fouled a lot without getting a call, which I think has a lot to do with his size and how effective he is at powering through contact.
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Agreed. And blaming the refs does no good. Would a few calls that had gone the Illini’s way resulted in a win? Very possibly. But so would have another made basket in regulation or in the first OT. I guess some people just feel better being able to blame things on the refs. But whether that blame is warranted or not, the loss will remain a loss. Much more interesting to discuss player performances like BBV stepping up, Curbelo’s return, Kofi’s struggles and second half 3-point shooting.
 
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IlliniTaffy said:
I thought the refs were fine really compared to everyone here. Only gripe I have is Plummer was fouled at the end of overtime on the play where Curbelo had 3 guys run at him.
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I thought Kofi's 3rd foul was absolute BS....Kofi feel down and the Purdue kid backed into his legs and went down....just a basketball play....seen a lot worse with no whistle.....should have just played on
 
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CAIllini

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Champaign88 said:
- Underwood continues to baffle me with not calling timeouts when the other team goes on big runs
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1000x Yes!!!! This is one of the few direct tools a coach has in his toolkit and BU just seems too stubborn/macho to use it…confounding. Painter on the other hand used it masterfully when we were about to go on a run and crowd frenzy was amping quickly.

You can just feel the game getting away from us on these long dry spells as the competition’s confidence grows. BU always prefers to let the players try and work out if it instead of resetting the momentum and regrouping with a chance to take a breather and add some strategic counters.

Drives me nuts.
 
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Boomauer

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doowink said:
Absolutely....we didn't get a lot of breaks from the Zeebs today....but you can't go 7+minutes in a game without scoring against an opponent like Purdue and expect to win....but yet we almost did
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...plus bricking 2 free throws and missing the front end of a one and one in the 2nd OT while Purdue was making every free throw. Stefanovic hit daggers every time we got in position to take control of the game.
 
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Stevegarbs

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Action10 said:
So the league office plotted with the officials and directed them to give Purdue an advantage today? Please stop, because people do prison time if that actually happened... Every loss that is close gets blamed on the officials on every message board in the country, but this is kinda absurd. Today was a great game in a stand alone time slot on national tv and it featured our team. Take it for what it is. We were involved in one of the games of the year.
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POTD.
 
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skyIdub said:
Ok. Curbelo should be initiating the offense every possession he is on the floor. Period. Full stop.

This is literally why we almost won this game without Kofi on the floor.
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Only when Trent Frazier is not in the game.
When Trent's in the game they can take turns.
BU only intended to give Curbelo 6-8 minutes, listen to his post-game and there was good reason for that.
I'll go with BU over some random IL poster, thanks, although I admire the enthusiasm for AC.
 
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spillini

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zentrails said:
Only when Trent Frazier is not in the game.
When Trent's in the game they can take turns.
BU only intended to give Curbelo 6-8 minutes, listen to his post-game and there was good reason for that.
I'll go with BU over some random IL poster, thanks, although I admire the enthusiasm for AC.
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If BU played him 3x the intended minutes in game one post-injury, wouldn’t that be a sign he’s going to get more once he’s better conditioned? Not seeing how your example proves Frazier will be primary ball handler when Belo is fully healthy.
 
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There was another game that started off with a technical foul and just such the momentum for Illinois. In the first half. Can anyone recall that have. Was that the az game??
 
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It ain't who starts, it's who finishes. And gassed as he was, Belo was clearly deserving of being in the game at the end. I'm not really concerned with him coming off the bench the rest of the year if that's what works.
Having Belo back and playing at a high level alongside Trent, Plummer, and DMFW is a very welcome development. I have no doubt Belo will take the keys back as much as his conditioning permits from here on out.
 
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TheFameProtector said:
See I think so much of that run can be pinned on the officiating, specifically. They took 10+ minutes trying to decide what to call the Omar elbow, and while they may have been going by the book on that one, I think that is the lightest flagrant foul one could call. Very easy argument for Omar just running down the court and trying to get by Stefanovic, with an accidental elbow graze as a side result. But if you're going to call a graze to the head a flagrant no matter what, then why does it take so long to get to that decision? The Hall was bumping all the way up until that review, and then the energy was zapped from the building. In a game of runs, pulling the plug on one run (the run we had been on up until that point) is as effective a means as any other to get the other team going.
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I totally agree 110. Exact point I’ve heard.
 
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sully said:
Painter is all class and a great coach imo (I've actually met him before when I was at the Buffalo Wild Wings in West Lafayette. I had no clue that was where he had held his local show either haha. He was chit chatting with everyone and seemed so humble and down to earth)
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When Bill Self left in 2003, I'm pretty sure we hired the 2nd best coach on the staff at Southern Illinois.....
 
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Illini 993 said:
If you have this game on DVR, I dare you to go back and slo-mo all of the questionable calls, and then tell me how it was. Very, very few games are decided by the refs, but this one was. OT is irrelevant, because the refs are the only reason it went to OT. Worst performance by the refs I've seen this year, JMHO.
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Were these guys the same crew who tried to steal the game from NW in the final minute with 2 god awful calls favoring Michigan State?
 
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illiniguy24

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Sorry but this time around I am firmly in the camp of not being satisfied with a moral victory. I really wanted this one, especially since Belo was back.
 
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