Curbelo.
Purdue 96, Illinois 88 2OT Postgame
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I agree but he still takes some bad shots, you don't have to take my word for it, you can see BU's reaction and/or body language sometimes where he's not fond of some of them either. Its more about when in terms of the context of the game vs is it an easy or hard shot.
totally agree, its easy to judge from the comfort of our couches, and we are all incredibly biased.
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My evidence was the first 5-10 mins of the game. We got better when BBV came in. Maybe we watched different games
Thanks for the def. I learn so much on this site.
For the record; I like "strawmen" and "snarky," so long as they have ILLINOIS across their jerseys.
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Kofi finished 3-10 from the field, was getting shots stuffed back at him and again struggled to finish at the basket. Curbelo threw a lob up to him that should have been flushed. Instead, he caught it, brought it down, went up and missed the rim completely. On the other end, Edey got whatever he wanted. He backed Kofi in and was able to go over both shoulders to score. This was well before Kofi got into foul trouble.
BBV is physically stronger than Kofi. Edey couldn't move him. That was the difference and it was a big difference.
This is the 2nd game where Kofi played vs a center(s) his size or a guy who is more athletic. The other was vs Arizona (a loss). Kofi was 5 of 15 in that game. So, both games, 30% and 33% respectively. On a separate note, this is why Kofi isn't on any draft boards.
In any event, for this game, they were not as good, not as effective and not as efficient, on either end of the floor with Kofi in the game. This was true before his first foul and after his fifth.
To be clear, these comments that you're seeing was for this one game only. Nobody is saying that Illinois is better without Kofi. For ONE GAME, Illinois was more more effective and efficient with him out of the game and for Purdue, Edey was more effective and efficient with Kofi in the game. If being objective, that's unequivocally true.
I thought as long as bigs used their lower body to push against defender that was fine, but if upper body involved that would get called. Not so with Edey. He was using his arms to push against Kofi. That should be a foul in my basketball world.
Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
Edey and BBV hardly went h2h during the game, it was mostly Trevion. Who also had nothing going against Kofi. The few minutes BBV had against Edey were in the 2nd half and OT when Edey was gassed since he can barely make it to 20 minutes in a game and went 27 in this one. Absolutely wild take to say BBV is physically stronger than Kofi. We are talking 7' 285 vs 6'8 235, Kofi would abuse BBV if he were on another team.
Big Jack
- Decatur
Okay I will just finally throw this out there so you all can teach me something...hahaha.....
I had the opportunity to watch this game from 338 right behind the PU basket. Poster above was right on about BBV being stronger than Kofi against Edey.. He did a great job of not letting him knock him back. Kofi backed up almost every time Edey posted up on him. The secret was making Edey pick up his dribble.
The problem is if you double down him to make him pick up his dribble. They constantly found an open shooter or someone slashing to the hole. Edey is a beast but you have to stop his dribble somehow. He is very slow of foot and if Kofi isn't in foul trouble we should pic and roll him to death.
Purdue is good but very beatable. Just hope Kofi doesn't press again at WL and we can run the offense better.
I had the opportunity to watch this game from 338 right behind the PU basket. Poster above was right on about BBV being stronger than Kofi against Edey.. He did a great job of not letting him knock him back. Kofi backed up almost every time Edey posted up on him. The secret was making Edey pick up his dribble.
The problem is if you double down him to make him pick up his dribble. They constantly found an open shooter or someone slashing to the hole. Edey is a beast but you have to stop his dribble somehow. He is very slow of foot and if Kofi isn't in foul trouble we should pic and roll him to death.
Purdue is good but very beatable. Just hope Kofi doesn't press again at WL and we can run the offense better.
Edey only scored 4 of his 9 baskets on Kofi. Only one of which was a result of him backing Kofi down.
Kofi isn't as effective against bigger, longer centers. This is true. But his struggles on Monday, especially on the defensive end, are being exaggerated.
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How many more pages do we think we have in us for this post-game thread? 
is there a +/-? What’s the record?
is there a +/-? What’s the record?skyIdub
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There is a huge difference between being stronger and playing stronger. BBV absolutely played stronger in the second half....after...Kofi had fouled out playing Edey much weaker. Kofi did not come out and play Edey strong. That has been established...and it doesn't necessarily mean he would have continued that after the half and some coaching. Especially if he'd only had 1 or 2 fouls.
However....BBV was basically begging to be called for fouls because of the way the game was called against Kofi. He was daring the refs to continue protecting Edey/Williams and continue to call fouls on Illinois bigs. There were no fewer than two obvious fouls against BBV that were not called....and he had 3 called against him already. So imagine if both BBV AND Kofi had fouled out...with 4 on Payne...while Edey and Williams stand there with 2 apiece. After two overtimes. Seriously.
So as a result...BBV was freer to play WAY more aggressively than Kofi was in the first half....and I guarantee you he was coached to do it.
If you think Kofi can't or won't play this way if able...you aren't paying attention. Just go back and watch him vs. Edey or Luka from last year.
Cherry picking an amazing performance by BBV...vs. a poor start from Kofi...is not a good foundation for a "we were better without Kofi" argument.
It's one of the absolute silliest notions that will ever be entertained on this board. Ever. Taking over "we are better off without Curbelo" from earlier this season.
However....BBV was basically begging to be called for fouls because of the way the game was called against Kofi. He was daring the refs to continue protecting Edey/Williams and continue to call fouls on Illinois bigs. There were no fewer than two obvious fouls against BBV that were not called....and he had 3 called against him already. So imagine if both BBV AND Kofi had fouled out...with 4 on Payne...while Edey and Williams stand there with 2 apiece. After two overtimes. Seriously.
So as a result...BBV was freer to play WAY more aggressively than Kofi was in the first half....and I guarantee you he was coached to do it.
If you think Kofi can't or won't play this way if able...you aren't paying attention. Just go back and watch him vs. Edey or Luka from last year.
Cherry picking an amazing performance by BBV...vs. a poor start from Kofi...is not a good foundation for a "we were better without Kofi" argument.
It's one of the absolute silliest notions that will ever be entertained on this board. Ever. Taking over "we are better off without Curbelo" from earlier this season.
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
- Chicago
At their worst, Kofi and Belo are frustrating, no doubt.
But at their best, either one is a total cheat code. The kind of player that makes other teams think: we have no answer to that. The kind of player that almost single-handedly warps reality decisively in our favor on the court.
That said, if anyone is hyper-focusing on a few bad games to shape their overall opinion of either player, a perspective reset is probably warranted. You can easily find season highlight reels of either player online. Both players have been featured in the SC Top Ten. Every other team in the B10 (and probably every other team in the nation) would take either player in heartbeat. Enjoy it while it lasts. They'll be gone before you know it.
But at their best, either one is a total cheat code. The kind of player that makes other teams think: we have no answer to that. The kind of player that almost single-handedly warps reality decisively in our favor on the court.
That said, if anyone is hyper-focusing on a few bad games to shape their overall opinion of either player, a perspective reset is probably warranted. You can easily find season highlight reels of either player online. Both players have been featured in the SC Top Ten. Every other team in the B10 (and probably every other team in the nation) would take either player in heartbeat. Enjoy it while it lasts. They'll be gone before you know it.
We’d be a .500 team w/o Kofi… at best. Enjoy him while he lasts.
Yeah there were and most of them were against us including the one you think was the correct call.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
We now have 3x the amount of posts in our post-game Purdue thread than MGoBlog's game thread had for Illinois-Michigan last Friday.How many more pages do we think we have in us for this post-game thread?
Dan
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This is the #5 all-time postgame thread in Loyalty history. Will not catch (still about 140 shy of) the all-time postgame thread, the ultimate of ultimates, a crunch-time devastating loss followed by 1 week till the next game: The Marquette Postgame Thread. Go IlliniHow many more pages do we think we have in us for this post-game thread?
"BBV is physically stronger than Kofi". You heard it here first, folks
Big Jack
- Decatur
Tacomallini
- Washington State
Could be from that elbow kofi took from Edey early in the game.....
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
It will never be consistent to people's satisfaction. Not everyone's... ANYONE'S. If refs make correct calls 96% of the time, the only part people will remember is the 4% that were messed up and the 20% additional that people THINK was messed up, even if it wasn't. Then they'll look at FT disparity and claim that it was unfair for their team. In a highly contested, highly emotional game with highly subjective rules, the refs will never come out looking good by more than 20% of the fan base. Every fan base thinks that they're being treated unfairly by the refs compared to the other team. The winners will stay 'Stop crying' or 'they're blowing call on both sides'.
Since THAT's the only thing that's consistent about officiating, then the only thing that can really change is our perception and reaction.
Cook
- Richmond, VA
Was that the one he took to the jaw or did that come later in the game? Of course, the one to the jaw was a no call
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