Rutgers 70, Illinois 59 Postgame

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#101      
Games like this are a hard sell to young players especially when you are starting 4 seniors and they combine to give you 20 pts 9 rebs and 8 assists and go for 4-17 for three and 8 of 23 overall

Its always great to run it back but you also have to figure out a way to add wrinkles and improve upon the previous season and it just looks as though weve squeezed about all we are gonna get from the seniors . I mean how do you explain to a freshmen that someone could be ahead of you and grab 3 rebs and 1 assists and have 1 to in 30 minutes but there are no minutes for you because you lack experience ?
right on point. If their confidence is so bad they won't shoot put the freshmen in.
 
#102      

80'sIllini

Arizona
Time for staff and players to decide what they want this year. Are they done, or do they really "think they can win it all?" Tired of hearing how well we are practicing and bringing it every day when it's not being brought to the games with the exception of the Arizona and first Purdue game really. The warning signs have been there - especially recently in the 2nd half of Purdue and NW.

RJ Melendez has to play 25-30 minutes a game from this point forward. Grandy, DMW, or Plummer can come off the bench; they seem to need some motivation at this point in the season. We really need Curbelo to get right and be able to take some of the load off Trent, who has played a ton of minutes and needs some help.

So, my humble opinion is the season rests on BU ditching his reluctance to put RJ on the floor and AC getting back to at least 75%, because he has been a shadow of himself since coming back - which is understandable. But it would be nice to see some progress of cutting silly turnovers and playing within himself. The shooters have to get their legs back apparently. Maybe dial down the intensity of the practices or something? Keep hearing how intense they are, and maybe this time of year is not the best time for that. Yea, I know, I'm not the coach. But I'm also not making $4Mil a year to make this work.
Excellent take.
BU seems to overly stick with veteran players rather than just playing who is more productive on the court( aka RJ and the other frosh at times during the season when given a chance to play). We certainly are not an "elite" shooting team- we've had too many and too long-lasting dry spells of not scoring all year. At least RJ and Curbelo can create a shot for themselves off the dribble and when he's healthy- Curbelo can for others. Both need to play more and get some rest for Trent and DMW. We will have trouble getting past the second round of the NCAA tourney unless we can find a way to avoid these long-scoring droughts. Getting outrebounded 46-28 is inexcusible.
 
#103      
Hat tip to Rutgers for fighting their way back into NCAA contention.

The Illini are going to lose every time they get stomped in the rebounding category and the guards collectively shoot under 30%.

I'm starting to think that Trent is more injured than anyone is letting on.
Not only NCAA but BIG title as well.

I agree Trent not shooting like he has. Too many turnovers too. Wonder if both he and DMW have nagging injuries or are just tired
 
#104      
Ugly. Really though, if we shoot close to our average, this game is alot different. I love passing it to find the best opportunity, but these guys were at the hoop and passing poorly to another player now and then. Take the shot.

Our shooting has been cooling off every game. This game, we were crapping ice cubes. Bad enough that I bet the guards all missed the urinals at half time. Oof.
 
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#105      
This isn’t a national championship/final four team this year. They are a good team but not a great team. We are missing some bigger players and some players that can take over a game any night. However, we have some recruits coming in that can so no worries we’ll be back sooner than later.
Agree. It just sucks because we are on year 2 with an All American player. Last year we had 2. When was the last time we had 1? 2005. That's 17 (SEVENTEEN) years ago. Those players do not come around at IL every other year.....yet. Let's hope we get there but these chances come few and far between for our team. Frustrating to underachieve in the tournament last year and be trending in the direction we have been for the last 4 weeks (5-4 since 1/17). Time to urgently get things fixed or it's basically start over next year if Kofi decides to leave. JMO
 
#106      

Ken

chitown
I think RJ is smart enough to realize there will be at the very minimum three of the current starters gone in a few weeks. I am not worried about him leaving. That being said, he has earned more minutes. I am sure he will get them.

Its not about the decisions you make when you don't have anybody else but the ones you make when you have options .

Has RJ earned minutes ? because there is no reason for DMW to be on the court 29 minutes to his 11 or even Hawkins 17 minutes.
 
#107      
Excellent take.
BU seems to overly stick with veteran players rather than just playing who is more productive on the court( aka RJ and the other frosh at times during the season when given a chance to play). We certainly are not an "elite" shooting team- we've had too many and too long-lasting dry spells of not scoring all year. At least RJ and Curbelo can create a shot for themselves off the dribble and when he's healthy- Curbelo can for others. Both need to play more and get some rest for Trent and DMW. We will have trouble getting past the second round of the NCAA tourney unless we can find a way to avoid these long-scoring droughts. Getting outrebounded 46-28 is inexcusible.
The reason why we’re getting out rebounded is because we’re playing against some much bigger teams. Kofi can’t do it all. Our guards are small and our forwards don’t have the length.
 
#108      
Maybe we are seeing the post AYO effect. Noone has stepped up to be that guy who is the closer for us, and who keeps this teams' head in the game. It was a question going into the season and looks like we are still searching for an answer. Got to find somebody capable of making the tough shot in crunch time under pressure(or just making a shot anytime right now give our offensive impotence lately)

We're 3-3 in games decided by less than 5 points.
 
#109      
This isn’t a national championship/final four team this year. They are a good team but not a great team. We are missing some bigger players and some players that can take over a game any given night. We have some recruits coming in that can however, so no worries we’ll be back sooner than later.
I disagree. This can be a national championship team. They are struggling right now but we have the pieces to beat anyone. RJ and Coleman need more minutes. The effort is not there right now-need to beat MSU
 
#111      
The reason why we’re getting out rebounded is because we’re playing against some much bigger teams. Kofi can’t do it all. Our guards are small and our forwards don’t have the length.
Also agree with this. RJ and Hawkins provide that length. For RJ to get 11 minutes tonight is a disgraceful stat for our coaching staff. Also need to get Hawkins more confidence somehow; he's shown flashes but often gets put on the end of the bench with RJ.
 
#113      

sacraig

The desert
I disagree. This can be a national championship team. They are struggling right now but we have the pieces to beat anyone. RJ and Coleman need more minutes. The effort is not there right now-need to beat MSU
We clearly have all the pieces. We haven't really seen them firing on all cylinders yet due to all the injuries and now that we are healthy we've hit a slump. There's time to turn it around but not a ton.
 
#114      
When your offense is not flowing well and your shots are not falling, PUSH THE BALL. Every chance you get, even after a made basket, get the ball out and look for transition points. We are really missing that this year. If you look at the last 6 minutes, mainly due to desperation, we started to run and push the ball up the floor. You have to adjust when your set plays are not giving you made baskets.
 
#117      
Excellent take.
BU seems to overly stick with veteran players rather than just playing who is more productive on the court( aka RJ and the other frosh at times during the season when given a chance to play). We certainly are not an "elite" shooting team- we've had too many and too long-lasting dry spells of not scoring all year. At least RJ and Curbelo can create a shot for themselves off the dribble and when he's healthy- Curbelo can for others. Both need to play more and get some rest for Trent and DMW. We will have trouble getting past the second round of the NCAA tourney unless we can find a way to avoid these long-scoring droughts. Getting outrebounded 46-28 is inexcusible.
we are getting outrebounded because we are playing small guys and still getting outhustled. Bad combination.
 
#121      

azillini1

Scottsdale
I disagree. This can be a national championship team. They are struggling right now but we have the pieces to beat anyone. RJ and Coleman need more minutes. The effort is not there right now-need to beat MSU
There is time to turn this around, but since the Purdue game at home we have been mostly inconsistent and out rebounded in most games. As I have commented for weeks, our freshman need a few minutes every game when our starters are struggling. Maybe they will make an impact like RJ has done the last few games and Goode before that. If they don't perform, pull them.

Don't know if our seniors have injuries or just poor shooting, but have to find a way to improve our rebounding and FG%.
 
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#122      
we suck again GIF
 
#123      
I think that people need to quit over complicating things. It's not the refs, it's not the toughness, it's not fifth year guys having to step up.....

It's the fact that this team only has two heads offensively. 1)Kofi and 2)Three Point Shooting.

The offense is built around putting four shooters around Kofi and taking the pick your poison approach.

When the other team cuts one of the heads off, this is a team that is very, very easily defended because the guards are one dimensional. If Frazier and Plummer aren't shooting the three, they really don't add any other value on offense and add to that th fact that they're undersized.

In late December thru January, we were shooting the lights out. Now, it's sporadic and it shows through the scoring droughts and the Jeckyl and Hyde halves. First half vs Purdue, we couldn't miss and we were winning. Second half, we couldn't hit and got blown out. First half vs Northwestern we couldn't miss, second half we couldn't hit and coughed up a 15 point lead. The first half vs Indiana we were...."ok". The second half we shot the eyes out.

That's just what this team is and there are really good coaches in this league. They've figured it out. They don't care if Kofi gets 20/10....just shut down the three point line.

Now, RJ is the one guy on the roster who brings something different to the table because he can slash and is long. That has been showing. The question is, can you live with what he's going to give up on the other end this early in his career.

These next three are going to be tough ones.
 
#124      
Really bad game by are seniors and BU. Between Grandison 5 pts. 3 reb. In 21 mins. Plummer 4pts 1reb. In 23 mins. and Williams 0pts. 1reb. 3ast. in 29 mins. BU needs to have better feel for the game. They brought almost nothing tonight amd those stats don’t show how bad they were on D tonight.

RJ had 10 pts. 1 ast. 1 stl. 1 blk. in 11 mins. Why would you not try the other freshmen? They couldn’t have played anymore poorly than our seniors. That has to being irritating to them. They make a mistake or two and they are pulled for the rest of the half or game. Our seniors can make mistake after mistake get pulled for a couple mins then bam right back in the game.
 
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