St. Louis Cardinals 2015 Season

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#501      
Kershaw pitched tonight like he was pitching against the Cardinals in the playoffs!

Cardinal pitchers snubbed tonight, but I would rather they were rested!
 
#502      
Kershaw pitched tonight like he was pitching against the Cardinals in the playoffs!

Cardinal pitchers snubbed tonight, but I would rather they were rested!

Agreed!
 
#504      
Funny moment from Albert. He's a class act and I'm glad he's back to all star level.

http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/reds...-cardinals-during-all-star-game-introductions

Also, I need to get my hands on one of those Cardinal all star hats. They look sweet.


Fanatics.com has them:

http://m.fanatics.com/MLB_St_Louis_...ra_2015_All-Star_Game_39THIRTY_Flex_Hat_-_Red

If you have a big head (only two sizes left) here are the on field ones:

http://www.fanatics.com//st._louis_...diamond_era_on-field_59fifty_fitted_hat_-_red
 
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#505      
Well, we have 2 weeks until the deadline, who do you see us going after? My hopes of Morneau ever getting healthy and a phone call being placed is being dismissed by the minute. Looking through the league at first basemen and I just don't see many rentals. Lind is the name I see the most and has a contract expiring this year. He does have an option for 2016, so that could be useful in case Adams isn't the same after his surgery. I also like the idea for Carlos Santana out of Cleveland. He is locked thru 2016 with an option in 2017, but he solves no power problems we, he does however get on base a ton. We also seem to have a great working relationship with Cleveland, as we have made a few trades with them in recent years.

Back to Adams, I know he is having surgery and is supposed to make a full recovery, but I really feel this is what we have to look forward to with him. He isn't getting younger,(still only 26)and he is big to over weight and I just see nothing but injuries from here on out. He has already missed portions of 2 seasons including this one. I believe his contract of 560k expires after this season(as I type this, I swear he signed an extension)and then he hits his arbitration years. I love Big City, but to me his risk does not outweigh the reward. He doesn't do anything terrific, but does everything decent. He has mediocre power, decent average, doesn't drive in a ton, nimble at first, but does nothing to me that screams lock him up.

So, what do you suppose we do.
 
#506      
A problem with looking for a trade is the Pirates are also looking for a first baseman. We know Mo won't panic and give up too much. I wouldn't be surprised if we get involved with someone like Lind just to drive the price up for the Pirates. Piscotty is working out at first and his power numbers are way up this year after he made some off season changes to his swing. I bet we see him up soon.

Mo also said he's looking at getting a starting pitcher. Jaime should be back soon, but you never know for how long. And Martinez and Wacha are both young arms who you can't risk burning out. Plus Lackey is an old guy so it's unclear how long he can pitch at the level he has thus far.
 
#507      
Well, we have 2 weeks until the deadline, who do you see us going after? My hopes of Morneau ever getting healthy and a phone call being placed is being dismissed by the minute. Looking through the league at first basemen and I just don't see many rentals. Lind is the name I see the most and has a contract expiring this year. He does have an option for 2016, so that could be useful in case Adams isn't the same after his surgery. I also like the idea for Carlos Santana out of Cleveland. He is locked thru 2016 with an option in 2017, but he solves no power problems we, he does however get on base a ton. We also seem to have a great working relationship with Cleveland, as we have made a few trades with them in recent years.

Back to Adams, I know he is having surgery and is supposed to make a full recovery, but I really feel this is what we have to look forward to with him. He isn't getting younger,(still only 26)and he is big to over weight and I just see nothing but injuries from here on out. He has already missed portions of 2 seasons including this one. I believe his contract of 560k expires after this season(as I type this, I swear he signed an extension)and then he hits his arbitration years. I love Big City, but to me his risk does not outweigh the reward. He doesn't do anything terrific, but does everything decent. He has mediocre power, decent average, doesn't drive in a ton, nimble at first, but does nothing to me that screams lock him up.

So, what do you suppose we do.

I know I must be missing something, but I still don't understand why the Cardinals are not looking at Holliday to play first base. His defense in the outfield has always been mediocre and at his age is not going to get any better. And, as one writer indicated, an outfield of Grichuk, Bourjos, and Hayward could very well be the best defensively in the NL.
 
#508      
Do you really want Holliday's gl;ove at first. It scares me!!
 
#509      
I know I must be missing something, but I still don't understand why the Cardinals are not looking at Holliday to play first base. His defense in the outfield has always been mediocre and at his age is not going to get any better. And, as one writer indicated, an outfield of Grichuk, Bourjos, and Hayward could very well be the best defensively in the NL.

I think in the middle of a playoff race, it is much to risky to have Holliday learning a new spot. In the offseason, perhaps, but now I see that as being a disaster. I like the idea of Piscotty at first, we will be able to keep that position in house, but right now it is an idea. While Grichuk, Bourjos and Heyward would be a tremendous defensive outfield, I'm just not so sure of the offensive output of those guys. I also think the Pirates have something to say about where the best outfield resides and will for time to come.

I haven't seen much of what the free agent market looks like this offseason, but I also think 2017 and 2018 is when the splashy moves can be made. I believe our new radio and TV deals come into place then and the extra revenue from BallPark village when it is 100% complete.

We have the pitching right now, even without Waino, we have it. I preface that with the expectation that Marco and Jaime can be ready soon and we can roll a 6 man rotation for a bit.

Our farm system right now is middle of the pack and we just optioned Diaz, so hopefully he clears waivers. We will have some aging guys here with seemingly nothing behind it right now. Holliday not getting younger, same with Yadi who is 33 and with us until 2018, Peralta with 2 years left and is aging, Marp seems like he is a .270 hitter with limited power at a corner position, and Heyward's future is uncertain.
 
#510      
I do trust in Mo and the ownership, but something this offseason will have to be done to get us some prospects. Should that be parting with Holliday, then so be it, but who will give up prospects in an offseason for an aging outfielder? Do you give up Waino? I don't. Do you give up a young pitcher or prospects for prospects? That would serve no purpose of ours. W

With our pitching we can compete for a few more years with these position players and I would love to keep them all as that is our leadership, but we need to start getting some guys in the hopper who are going to be ready to play when called upon.

To my post above, think about if we would've gotten Andrus instead of Peralta. I shiver to think about our offense with him instead of Jhonny. I don't want anyone to think I'm diparaging any of our guys, but reality will soon be here.
 
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I think in the middle of a playoff race, it is much to risky to have Holliday learning a new spot. In the offseason, perhaps, but now I see that as being a disaster. I like the idea of Piscotty at first, we will be able to keep that position in house, but right now it is an idea. While Grichuk, Bourjos and Heyward would be a tremendous defensive outfield, I'm just not so sure of the offensive output of those guys. I also think the Pirates have something to say about where the best outfield resides and will for time to come.

I haven't seen much of what the free agent market looks like this offseason, but I also think 2017 and 2018 is when the splashy moves can be made. I believe our new radio and TV deals come into place then and the extra revenue from BallPark village when it is 100% complete.

We have the pitching right now, even without Waino, we have it. I preface that with the expectation that Marco and Jaime can be ready soon and we can roll a 6 man rotation for a bit.

Our farm system right now is middle of the pack and we just optioned Diaz, so hopefully he clears waivers. We will have some aging guys here with seemingly nothing behind it right now. Holliday not getting younger, same with Yadi who is 33 and with us until 2018, Peralta with 2 years left and is aging, Marp seems like he is a .270 hitter with limited power at a corner position, and Heyward's future is uncertain.

Good point.
 
#512      
So why does Matheny continue to overuse Rosie? Seriously how stupid is here. This is so freaking annoying. God I hate MM. Has no management skills.
 
#513      
So why does Matheny continue to overuse Rosie? Seriously how stupid is here. This is so freaking annoying. God I hate MM. Has no management skills.

Situations the past few nights pretty well dictated the need to use Rosenthal. It's not as if he's blown saves in any of these games. Prior to Tuesday night, he hadn't pitched since the previous Friday, the first game of the Mets series. That means that he had 3 days where he wasn't used. It's not as if Rosenthal hasn't needed the work. I'd be surprised if he was available tomorrow night though. If a save situation comes up, they may have someone like Maness or Siegrist close.
 
#514      
That's the one thing I've never like about Matheny is his use of the bullpen. I love his leadership quality though. I have to say this team just keeps winning but when I watch them I still don't know how they have the record they do. I for one am worried about the playoffs and the future. Our offense isn't that great and our pitching is young so we'll see how they hold up. The future is what I'm worried about as we have a lot of aging stars and not any stars waiting in the wings. I'm curious in what direction this team goes the next few years.
 
#515      
Situations the past few nights pretty well dictated the need to use Rosenthal. It's not as if he's blown saves in any of these games. Prior to Tuesday night, he hadn't pitched since the previous Friday, the first game of the Mets series. That means that he had 3 days where he wasn't used. It's not as if Rosenthal hasn't needed the work. I'd be surprised if he was available tomorrow night though. If a save situation comes up, they may have someone like Maness or Siegrist close.

It's more of Matheny saying he wont overwork Rosie,then he starts doing it. Pitchers become less effective when they are run out there multiple days in a row. It's also the fact that you have to trust other people in your pen. Plus Rosie was dealing with fatigue running up to the break. We are pushing him too much.

Vivaelbirdos.com usually has good write ups about the overuse and underuse that Matheny does with our bullpen. Also Bernie and I think Goold have had a few good stories on STLToday.com as well. I am not the only one who worries about Rosies breakdown.
 
#516      
So why does Matheny continue to overuse Rosie? Seriously how stupid is here. This is so freaking annoying. God I hate MM. Has no management skills.

Not a big fan of his use of the bullpen either, but I think you have to separate his game management skills from his player management skills. I think his player management skills are as good as any manager in the game. The in-game management...well, everyone is a good armchair manager after the game is over.

In yesterdays post-game he mentioned that he didn't really want to use Rosenthal last night, but the game before he only threw 10 pitches and Rosenthal insisted he felt fine and should be available.

I suppose giving in to a player that wants to play could be bad game management and bad season management, but to the players, it's probably pretty awesome, and they'll give 110% every time. Which is probably why the team that doesn't seem to have the most talent has the best record in baseball by quite a good margin.
 
#519      
Grichuk is looking like quite the player going forward. It's early for him but man that ball jumps off his bat. Plus defender, plus arm, plus speed.
 
#521      
Grichuk is looking like quite the player going forward. It's early for him but man that ball jumps off his bat. Plus defender, plus arm, plus speed.

That's soo true. Ive always like him as a prospect and he seems to be excelling in the opportunities given to him. His offense has been solid, and like you said, the ball jumps off his bat. I think he's under the radar a bit right now.
 
#522      
That's soo true. Ive always like him as a prospect and he seems to be excelling in the opportunities given to him. His offense has been solid, and like you said, the ball jumps off his bat. I think he's under the radar a bit right now.

Consistency is the next step.
 
#524      
Interesting article about Albert Pujols, penned by an LA sportswriter:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angels-rangers-20150725-story.html

According to the article, Cards will play the Angels in Anaheim again next year, not St. Louis.

And when that time comes, I hope he is received with open arms. Albert gave me and every other Cardinals many great memeories. For my money, he is the greatest player I've seen in my time, and we just happened to have him for his best years in St. Louis.
 
#525      
And when that time comes, I hope he is received with open arms. Albert gave me and every other Cardinals many great memeories. For my money, he is the greatest player I've seen in my time, and we just happened to have him for his best years in St. Louis.

I couldn't agree more with your sentiment. I feel exactly the same way. I think the fans knew what they had with Albert and really appreciated it. And when it came down to signing a new contract, most cards fans including myself, felt that StLouis just couldn't make that big payday happen. I assumed he wasn't going to re-sign with StL. That's what made that championship even better. I'd cheer him if he came back to StL.
 
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