The Illinois AD Search

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Michael & Whitman - previous experience in the Illinois DIA (Is that really a good thing?), and current experience at a D-III school and FCS school, respectively.

Frazier - He played football at Alabama, where he was a four year letterwinner and part of an SEC title team. Was in Wisconsin's DIA for six years and progressed up to serve as Barry Alvarez' Chief of Staff. In his second year at NIU the annual fund there grew by 24%. Has experience in dealing with Chicagoland as a result of his experience at NIU and overall the prospects on him are high.

If it's not Rick George, I certainly hope it's Sean Frazier. The more I've read on him the more I wish he'd be part of the conversation. Guy has real, relevant experience with athletic programs considerably more accomplished and competent than ours.

Don't get your hopes up, makes too much sense :D

I'm actually with you. He seems like he has the credentials, experience, an up and comer without being too green. Lots to like IMO
 
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Frazier - He played football at Alabama, where he was a four year letterwinner and part of an SEC title team. Was in Wisconsin's DIA for six years and progressed up to serve as Barry Alvarez' Chief of Staff. In his second year at NIU the annual fund there grew by 24%. Has experience in dealing with Chicagoland as a result of his experience at NIU and overall the prospects on him are high.

If it's not Rick George, I certainly hope it's Sean Frazier. The more I've read on him the more I wish he'd be part of the conversation. Guy has real, relevant experience with athletic programs considerably more accomplished and competent than ours.

Is the fact that Barry Alvarez is a terrible AD and not a role model for what Illinois wants at all a truth we're ready to confront?

Not to say that that's Sean Frazier's fault, but it's high time Alvarez is placed into his proper context.
 
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Try telling, reporting all the facts, or most of the facts.

I don't know what you want Ryan to tweet other than what she did.

I especially think the fact that Rayfield is a defendant in a lawsuit against a former player is something that any responsible journalist ought to be pointing out, considering the rationale given for Mike Thomas' firing.
 
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I don't know what you want Ryan to tweet other than what she did.

I especially think the fact that Rayfield is a defendant in a lawsuit against a former player is something that any responsible journalist ought to be pointing out, considering the rationale given for Mike Thomas' firing.

As TomB asked, did she bother to list the chairman's credentials? Or was it convenient to just leave it as an animal sciences professor?

I get it, it's all about hits and followers for websites and Twitter. Doesn't make it right, but negativity sells.
 
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As TomB asked, did she bother to list the chairman's credentials? Or was it convenient to just leave it as an animal sciences professor?

I get it, it's all about hits and followers for websites and Twitter. Doesn't make it right, but negativity sells.

Shannon Ryan ‏@sryantribune 8h8 hours ago
Head of #Illini AD search committee: Matt Wheeler, animal science professor and faculty athletic representative.

Dr. Wheeler was Chair of the Academic Progress and Eligibility Committee of the Athletic Board and Chair of the Board from 1999-2002. He is one of the Faculty Athletic Representatives for the University to the Big Ten Conference and the NCAA.

Sorry her tweet doesn't read like a University-generated press release. That's not her responsibility. The facts are dead-on.

No one is going to pretend that Ryan, or any reporter not dependent on the DIA's largesse for their job isn't looking at the Illinois situation with a jaundiced eye at the moment. That's because that is the only rational, objective way to look at this situation. We have humiliated ourselves in a way unprecedented in modern college sports. To report that as hunky-dory would be the work of an unprofessional shill, and take a look around, because there are plenty of them. They're starting to be about the only people left.
 
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As TomB asked, did she bother to list the chairman's credentials? Or was it convenient to just leave it as an animal sciences professor?

I get it, it's all about hits and followers for websites and Twitter. Doesn't make it right, but negativity sells.

[FONT=&quot]Isn't Matt Wheeler an animal science professor and faculty athletic representative? Isn't he the head of the committee? That's all she tweeted. Any perceived negativity is coming from your reading, not her tweeting. She only has 140 characters per tweet so what else you expect her to add I have no idea. Each one of her tweets stated the facts of who is on the committee, period.
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Sorry her tweet doesn't read like a University-generated press release. That's not her responsibility. The facts are dead-on.

No one is going to pretend that Ryan, or any reporter not dependent on the DIA's largesse for their job isn't looking at the Illinois situation with a jaundiced eye at the moment. That's because that is the only rational, objective way to look at this situation. We have humiliated ourselves in a way unprecedented in modern college sports. To report that as hunky-dory would be the work of an unprofessional shill, and take a look around, because there are plenty of them. They're starting to be about the only people left.

Is the second quote a tweet of hers? If so, I stand corrected. If not, I stand by my assertion.
 
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Why does everyone want Rick George?
I wouldn't call Colorado's athletic program a powerhouse by any means.
Why would Rick George be better than, lets say, Tom Michael?

He's being looked at as a "re-uniter" of the fan base and donor base.

Michael wouldn't be looked at at all if he wasn't an alum. His resume needs a lot more bolstering before he'd be qualified. And from those I've heard from, he doesn't have the personality to woo/lure the big donors back.
 
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He's being looked at as a "re-uniter" of the fan base and donor base.

Michael wouldn't be looked at at all if he wasn't an alum. His resume needs a lot more bolstering before he'd be qualified. And from those I've heard from, he doesn't have the personality to woo/lure the big donors back.

I can tell you first hand that he is about as uninspiring of an AD as there is out there. I'm really really not impressed with him (speaking of Michael).
 
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He IS an animal sciences professor.
OK, but he's also an expert in microfluidics, nanometer-scale integrated systems, biology of single mammalian embryos and embryonic stem cells, remote sensing of embryo metabolism and embryonic health, and microcalorimetry and MEMS actuators. I don't know why everyone keeps forgetting to mention that part.
 
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Bernstein is the Skip Bayless of local radio. He couldn't find his !!! with both hands, let alone a reliable source.

Yes, Bernstein is an !!!, but he does have real sources and they are very accurate. This search committee is a joke, which is unfortunately par for the course in Champaign.
 
#791      
Yes, Bernstein is an !!!, but he does have real sources and they are very accurate. This search committee is a joke, which is unfortunately par for the course in Champaign.

Wrong, he may have sources, but they are far from reliable. I do happen to know a couple big time boosters, I will not name names. But one in particular who knows what is going on, and whose opinion if valued highly says most of the stuff we hear on the radio is conjecture. He particularly points out the Score as being way off base, and reporting things that will be planted in order to to know who may be the leaks.

Wheeler is highly respected, and my nervousness about this committee has wained knowing he is heading it versus someone from the current DIA.
 
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mattcoldagelli

The Transfer Portal
No, this is how she reports, she picks and chooses facts on not just Twitter, but also her stories and radio appearances to make the story more salacious. She will claim inside sources and investigation, when 90% of the time her info is readily available on the Internet. Hell she has written stories and posted info on Twitter that was on this website weeks before. She is th newspaper version of Bernstein lazy and looking for ratings

This is just totally fabricated.

The sad fact is we are nowhere near significant enough to warrant a reporter at a major newspaper conducting some nefarious smear campaign against us. If we weren't serving up embarrassing softballs on the regular, her time would just be directed elsewhere.
 
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Yes, Bernstein is an !!!, but he does have real sources and they are very accurate. This search committee is a joke, which is unfortunately par for the course in Champaign.

I love the Boers and Bernstein show. Listen every day. But he has absolutely no sources when it comes to Illinois. Surprised to see Sox in your username because it's the same case there. He pretends to be holier than thou with inside info to fire up listeners. It can be pretty funny, but I can't believe some still take it seriously, especially after how wrong he was over and over again the last time we were searching for 2 coaches.
 
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No, this is how she reports, she picks and chooses facts on not just Twitter, but also her stories and radio appearances to make the story more salacious. She will claim inside sources and investigation, when 90% of the time her info is readily available on the Internet. Hell she has written stories and posted info on Twitter that was on this website weeks before. She is th newspaper version of Bernstein lazy and looking for ratings

You obviously have no clue about newspaper reporting. I've yet to see her write a "salacious" story. Her tweets and article on this were nothing but names and connection to the university. You know, facts.
She is not a shill or a PR extension of the university. And you, like Beckman, evidently think that's the job of a newspaper reporter.
I would say her sources were pretty good last week when she broke the Cubit for 2 years story that half the board derided her for and said she was just trying to make a name for herself. Reporters don't make names for themselves by publishing BS articles. This is as bad as the people who blamed Jerry Meyer for Cliff going to Kansas because he started changing his CB pick the morning of the decision.
People like you remind me of the President Truman story during his 1948 presidential campaign whistle stop tour.
Member of the Crowd - "Give 'em hell, Harry."
Truman - "I just tell the truth and they think it's hell."
You are one of "they".
 
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Kramer

Des Moines, Iowa
Part of reporting is telling the whole story not an angle that skews a readers opinion. That's why it's called reporting and then there are opinion pieces. She didn't say anything else, no history on search committees or a better background so readers get a good understanding. She parroted a press release.

Inform the reader, she should try to get a background on selection committees, do you think she could inform the reader. Compare the process to hire high level management in the private sector.

I still think BC called her and told her they were thinking about a 2 year deal with him since he presented it to the school.

It's all very manipulative to get people to form an opinion.
 
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And that is his only qualification for leading the search committee?

I guess that just cements our reputation as an agricultural school huh.

To be honest, I expected better out of you Matt.

Sorry Matt, didn't mean to sound personal. I meant that more in the argumentative sense. As a respected poster, i feel you normally argue well.
 
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Hoppy2105

Little Rock, Arkansas
Sorry Matt, didn't mean to sound personal. I meant that more in the argumentative sense. As a respected poster, i feel you normally argue well.

Not sure if this is correct, but I feel like Matt was simply replying to the fact that someone said Ryan needed to list the Chairman's credentials...and technically she did. "He IS an animal blah blah...you get the point."

Having said that, though, if his football related credentials are worth more than the few words she gave, then it is pretty lame and would have been better for her to type out the more relevant qualification and list his main title as the thing that gets less attention.
 
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Part of reporting is telling the whole story not an angle that skews a readers opinion. That's why it's called reporting and then there are opinion pieces. She didn't say anything else, no history on search committees or a better background so readers get a good understanding. She parroted a press release.

Inform the reader, she should try to get a background on selection committees, do you think she could inform the reader. Compare the process to hire high level management in the private sector.

I still think BC called her and told her they were thinking about a 2 year deal with him since he presented it to the school.

It's all very manipulative to get people to form an opinion.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...director-search-committee-20151204-story.html

Here's her article from yesterday. Facts from a to z. She could've said her opinion was it's crazy they took a solid month from firing Thomas to putting together the search committee. That they took a month to do anything after firing Thomas. But she didn't. Have you ever read a story short of a PR release from a university that detailed the differences between this and one in the private sector? Have you ever read a story about a private sector search committee and how it differed from a university sports search committee? No, because it's not relevant.
And my own personal opinion, having been a reporter/writer for much of my adult life and knowing how these things go, is that she got her Cubit info from sources who did not want it to happen. In other words, disgusted sources who hoped to cause an uproar that would stop it from happening. They got their uproar, but clueless will always march on.
Again, you guys want Shannon Ryan to do the university's job and it ain't gonna happen.
 
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You obviously have no clue about newspaper reporting. I've yet to see her write a "salacious" story. Her tweets and article on this were nothing but names and connection to the university. You know, facts.
She is not a shill or a PR extension of the university. And you, like Beckman, evidently think that's the job of a newspaper reporter.
I would say her sources were pretty good last week when she broke the Cubit for 2 years story that half the board derided her for and said she was just trying to make a name for herself. Reporters don't make names for themselves by publishing BS articles. This is as bad as the people who blamed Jerry Meyer for Cliff going to Kansas because he started changing his CB pick the morning of the decision.
People like you remind me of the President Truman story during his 1948 presidential campaign whistle stop tour.
Member of the Crowd - "Give 'em hell, Harry."
Truman - "I just tell the truth and they think it's hell."
You are one of "they".

No, I was referring to the Cijanovic (sp?) story where she listed facts on twitter and on the Score that were already on this very board. She is a reporter, and should be presenting facts, NOT just part of the facts. I do not WANT nor expect a U of I biased story. Never have. The truth should be out there.
She is picking & choosing facts to paint a narrative, plain and simple. I have listened plenty on the Score to hear her leave out facts to fit the narrative they want, or give out half-truths. Her tweets on the search committee are a perfect example. She gives no background as to why Matt Wheeler is part of the committee, not anyone else. Did she do any digging on to WHY these people are on the committee? No, she just listed them with their titles, leaving it open for reaction. We all know the fanbase is at an all time high for over reactions, so she just tells everyone Matt Wheeler is an Ag Professor, thus increasing the hits she'll get and heightening the buzz around the story. That's what opinion pages are for.


You don't know me, so don't paint me with a bunch of ignorant assumptions based off of stupid reactions by people about Cliff Alexander and Harry Truman. Really? Did I say salacious by the way? No. But I guess I could paint you as part of the lunatic fringe. Also, I saw the Cubit story broken by others on bleacher report first. One broken story does not make a good reporter, otherwise we have multiple "recruiting insiders" on this board who should be changing their jobs since they "knew" a recruit was committing before he actually did....

I don't want news outlets kissing U of I's !!!. I also don't want them twisting the story to fit a specific narrative. You ever wonder why The Score never references any other reporters work on the U of I???

If you go back and look at the few posts I have, You'll see I call out coaches, players, admin, and posters for accountability. Again, you don't know me.

I tried to give some info I had from a very, very credible booster source. If this is what happens, I'll keep it to myself.

In the meantime, Glass houses...
 
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