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EJ33 said:
I'd take a repeat of the Guenther era in a heartbeat.
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19 years of >.400 football.
6 bowl games in 19 years after 4 consecutive bowls games when he took over.
A great 7 year run in BB sandwiching mediocrity.
Half assed job renovating MS.
Absolutely nothing done to the basketball facility.
Sitting on his hands after year one of Bill Self and not immediately giving him a huge raise cost him the best coach he hired.
Then hiring for loyalty instead of talent.

It baffles me how much people defend this failure of a man.
 
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JoseyWales83

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The "extra money" report is intriguing, but unfortunately, I'm in fool-me-eight-times-shame-on-me mode at this point. For one thing, Tupper, who I like, nevertheless seems to get all his info from one source that has been hellbent on pushing the Rick-George-in-play angle despite all evidence suggesting otherwise. And second, Tupper pulls back a few follow-up tweets after this one, saying basically "Well, my source says that George and Tiley are nos. 1 & 2 on the university's list of preferred candidates." I'd be happy to leak the info right now that nos. 1 & 2 on my list of preferred second wives are Jessica Alba and Margot Robbie, but honestly, you might want to hold off on getting the wedding present just yet.
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Not fair that's my preferred list of wives too, just waiting on my family to approve their pre-nup which might be messed up by my friends who think I need to give them more money so they can stay with me. My fallbacks are Anna Faris and Elisha Cuthbert just in case.
 
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Second and Chalmers said:
Look at where the department was in 1992 versus 2011. Forget the in-the-moment quality of the teams, the brand of Illinois Athletics was immeasurably stronger. More fans, more media attention, more pride, more enthusiasm. The scattered success we had during those years just masked the extent to which the roots of the program were rotting out.
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It's not quite that simple and Illinois athletics have been cyclical with scattered success for a long time.
 
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mattcoldagelli

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Second and Chalmers said:
Look at where the department was in 1992 versus 2011. Forget the in-the-moment quality of the teams, the brand of Illinois Athletics was immeasurably stronger. More fans, more media attention, more pride, more enthusiasm. The scattered success we had during those years just masked the extent to which the roots of the program were rotting out.
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And I also think Guenther's vision of what an athletic department could be and how it should operate was something that could kind of uncomfortably exist and keep its head above water in the '90s but within the last ten years was getting exponentially outdated by the day.
 
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JoseyWales83 said:
Not fair that's my preferred list of wives too, just waiting on my family to approve their pre-nup which might be messed up by my friends who think I need to give them more money so they can stay with me. My fallbacks are Anna Faris and Elisha Cuthbert just in case.
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Have you met with your family or friends to discuss forming a search committee for other fallbacks beyond Faris and Cuthbert? Or are you letting a search firm handle that?

Also, might want to have an interim wife in place just to be safe.
 
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AutoPoster 3000 said:
The "extra money" report is intriguing, but unfortunately, I'm in fool-me-eight-times-shame-on-me mode at this point. For one thing, Tupper, who I like, nevertheless seems to get all his info from one source that has been hellbent on pushing the Rick-George-in-play angle despite all evidence suggesting otherwise. And second, Tupper pulls back a few follow-up tweets after this one, saying basically "Well, my source says that George and Tiley are nos. 1 & 2 on the university's list of preferred candidates." I'd be happy to leak the info right now that nos. 1 & 2 on my list of preferred second wives are Jessica Alba and Margot Robbie, but honestly, you might want to hold off on getting the wedding present just yet.
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When you know your target(s), sometimes you have to be patient and relentless. If you shake the tree enough, eventually the apple you want is going to fall.
 
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Pick who you want and pay the man.

Don't flirt with them both and see which one wants it enough to take the lowest offer.

Don't drag it out.

Seize the day!
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Agree! I'm having bad thought of this playing out like Brunson/Evans. We keep thinking we can get George (Brunson), so we slow play Tiley (Evans) and lose both. Please make it stop and just hire one already!
 
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If I recall correctly (unlikely) back in December one of the sticking points for George coming to Illinois was his wife not wanting to leave the Boulder area (and who can blame her). I wonder if that is a sticking point and they are going to need a large amount of money to convince her to come live in C-U.
 
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Ransom Stoddard

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JiroDreamsOfMcRibs said:
19 years of >.400 football.
6 bowl games in 19 years after 4 consecutive bowls games when he took over.
A great 7 year run in BB sandwiching mediocrity.
Half assed job renovating MS.
Absolutely nothing done to the basketball facility.
Sitting on his hands after year one of Bill Self and not immediately giving him a huge raise cost him the best coach he hired.
Then hiring for loyalty instead of talent.

It baffles me how much people defend this failure of a man.
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Bingo. The only people who really liked Guenther were the ones paying for the privilege of liking him. I'm acquainted with a few of them, and 2&C's analysis earlier in the thread is dead on with things I heard, either first or second hand.
 
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So is there any expectation that we'll hear something Monday?

S&C, I appreciate the summary. Your disdain for the boosters certainly comes through, but I'm not sure it reflects a completely realistic view of what people who contribute big bucks are going to expect in terms of involvement. They don't get to make the decisions, but they certainly need to be made to feel like their input is being seriously considered. That seems to me where Hogan went astray, both in ditching RG and hiring MT - not necessarily what he did but how he went about it. And he was getting the big bucks to be able to manage those types of situations.
 
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Just hope it doesn't come down to some guy picking up a hat from a table...
 
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mhuml32

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What's the betting line for how many pages this thread reaches before the new AD is hired?

I'll say page 104 (Currently on 90).
 
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Illinigirl said:
Agree! I'm having bad thought of this playing out like Brunson/Evans. We keep thinking we can get George (Brunson), so we slow play Tiley (Evans) and lose both. Please make it stop and just hire one already!
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Had the exact same thought when I first read Tupper's tweet!
 
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Agree! I'm having bad thought of this playing out like Brunson/Evans. We keep thinking we can get George (Brunson), so we slow play Tiley (Evans) and lose both. Please make it stop and just hire one already!
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Just that I do not think there is a Oklahoma State waiting for Tiley. And, even more so, I am fairly confident that he is aware of the dynamics and prepared for it too.
 
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FeelYourPaign

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I'm going to be even more out of touch than usual for the next ten days. Sure hope that there is an announcement when I return. This has been painful
 
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JiroDreamsOfMcRibs said:
Sitting on his hands after year one of Bill Self and not immediately giving him a huge raise cost him the best coach he hired.
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Giving Self more money after year one would have just been money out of pocket. He was gone no matter what. Whatever Guenther would have raised, it just would have been money wasted no matter what. ;) Cmon Man! Kansas would have snatched him up period. :thumb:
 
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