orangeswarm76
- hastings Nebraska
I just wish this ongoing saga would conclude if it's taken this long and we get a lousy ad well God help us all
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IlliniOX08
- Bucktown, Chicago
I'd agree with that but I'd move Whitman in to the category of "meh". Not really acceptable for me but probably not an outright disaster.
Hard to say without knowing who it is. Tom Jurich? Yay! Loren Tate? Ugh.
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Loren Tate for AD. That would be magical.
To me there's an order of magnitude difference between Whitman and someone like Tom "20-more-years-of-the-same" Michael. Desperate times call for risky measures. I can get behind Whitman because, youth and inexperience and RG lineage aside, there seems to be a genuine high ceiling with him. If we can tolerate an initial learning curve, good chance he grows into our own Jim Phillips or Craig Tiley.
The troubling part, though, is that Craig Tiley is already Craig Tiley now. Make him say no first. Then look to Plan B.
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IlliniOX08
- Bucktown, Chicago
Well said. My worry is that our admin continues to make Plan B the new Plan A.
mattcoldagelli
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The tough part of Whitman is that he'd have taken the job the day it was available.
Which likely means that they exhausted attempts of getting George and Tiley
Michael as well. Hell, he would have done it for cheap. He wont even have to move back as he never even bothered to move to Charleston.
IlliniOX08
- Bucktown, Chicago
I'm glad someone has the faith that our administration would be that competent. I think hey're a bunch of bungling morons and I dread they've been hand wringing and writhing over Josh Whitman since day 1 if he's the hire.
But then again I feel pretty jaded towards the administration over basically how they handle everything at the school. Athletics most of all.
What's tough about that? Just asking. To me, that would've meant that they didn't even try for guys like George or Tiley, and that would've upset me. If Whitman would've been hired a month ago, does that really change anything that has happened at Illinois since that time?
I'm frustrated as a fan that we are still waiting, but honestly, I don't see how it has negatively impacted the sports teams since the time MT was dismissed. Now if we would've fired MT a lot sooner, then we're talking different circumstances.
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Thomas fired 11/9/15.
Whitman hired 11/9/15 + 20 minutes
Whitman gets to not retain Cubit and execute an actual job search for football that may net us Babers or Fleck or anyone better than Cubit and that staff.
It would have given us a chance to stay above the cellar in the B1G west. He might not have gotten the hire correct, but we would have had a nonzero chance to move our program forward instead of cratering it.
On the point of not even trying for George and Tiley... does it really take over 2.5 months to gauge interest? I mean George came out fairly quickly and said he wasn't interested. It wasn't some sort of hand-wavy "Nobody's contacted me" or "I'm committed to this university" type of statement, either.
Yeah, if something could've happened that quickly, then I definitely see that side of it. But I don't see any way they don't do some type of search. I'm not arguing that it needed to take months either.
Umm, yes it was.
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
Yes, wonder why not Chicago?
I get that Indy is a bigger city, bigger airport (than CU I mean) and the ease of anonymity, but why not also play the "Illinois flagship" card and go to your state's biggest city?
I get that Indy is a bigger city, bigger airport (than CU I mean) and the ease of anonymity, but why not also play the "Illinois flagship" card and go to your state's biggest city?
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orangeswarm76
- hastings Nebraska
What's the deal posted twice and poof there gone
His first statement was hand wavy. Within a week or two his stance was much more firm.
orangeswarm76
- hastings Nebraska
If they are interviewing 3-4 people then it's absolutely not George or tiley obviously, Whitman and Frazier I'm ok with all others and this boat will sink , support wise. I'm guessing but I'm thinking no one wants to come into this mess .
Don't know Illinois' FOI laws, but I know a lot of schools conduct their informal interviews out of state to avoid FOI rules. In Florida, for example, media have the right to sit in on interviews. (This actually happened at Florida State two ADs ago, when they hired Randy Spetman.)
Might have something to do with it.
FeelYourPaign
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Very interesting. Thanks.
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