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It's like a student failing out of Harvard. Just because you fail in the Ivy League, doesn't mean you can't be successful in the Big 10.
No, it's not.
It's like a student failing out of Harvard. Just because you fail in the Ivy League, doesn't mean you can't be successful in the Big 10.
no way they are telling an 18 year old high school student a secret like that .. Personally, I think it's significant that two (?) players who recently decommitted have now recommitted to Illinois. I think it's likely that they have been told who our next coach will be.
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Brett and cheerleaders, Brett and coeds, Brett and college parties....all alleged. You're not going to find news stories out there that verify this type of stuff.Can anyone name any specific "extracurricular stuff"? I haven't read one thing in this entire thread that implicates anything Bielema has done that has embarrassed the university. Not one.
Again, we have a basketball staff where our lead Asst put his last school on probation, our HC was on staff that was paying guys, and at his prior stop had his wins vacated due to academic fraud. To me, all those things would be embarrassing. Because those are actual real things that happened. They aren't private innuendo and rumors. Those are stated public events. But Whitman hired him anyway, and we are top 15 in the country. I'd much rather be top 15 in the country, than not be had we hired someone else.
So I don't get how anyone can claim Whitman is playing some integrity card, and using that as a reason to not hire Bielema, when we know who is coaching our basketball team.
“Planning on” is the key word. It won’t be his choice to stay or notSo are we all tracking that Collier said Hayes-Stoker is staying?
Early national signing day isn’t perfect, as a few situations involving area athletes proved this recruiting cycle
When the news broke, less than a week before signing day, McKinney wide receiver Omari Walker’s first reaction was to de-commit and re-open his recruiting....www.dallasnews.com
“Collier said Hayes-Stoker told him he’s planning on staying at Illinois, which helped Collier stick with Illinois.”
There is wiggle room there but it would be bogus to say that and then not.
So here's a question for the group: Leipold's OC and DC at Buffalo are the same ones from UW-Whitewater.
Would we want them in those roles at Illinois, to keep continuity with Leipold's success, or would we want to try to use our resources to bring in more decorated people?
Yes but what do we think would be good?Whitman would give him control of his staff. Myles Smith was coaching linebackers remember?
Chuck Pagano the new coach?So are we all tracking that Collier said Hayes-Stoker is staying?
Early national signing day isn’t perfect, as a few situations involving area athletes proved this recruiting cycle
When the news broke, less than a week before signing day, McKinney wide receiver Omari Walker’s first reaction was to de-commit and re-open his recruiting....www.dallasnews.com
“Collier said Hayes-Stoker told him he’s planning on staying at Illinois, which helped Collier stick with Illinois.”
There is wiggle room there but it would be bogus to say that and then not.
Brett and cheerleaders, Brett and coeds, Brett and college parties....all alleged. You're not going to find news stories out there that verify this type of stuff.
You give the new HC the ability to hire who he wants on staff. Means those guys would come with most likely.So here's a question for the group: Leipold's OC and DC at Buffalo are the same ones from UW-Whitewater.
Would we want them in those roles at Illinois, to keep continuity with Leipold's success, or would we want to try to use our resources to bring in more decorated people?
Yes but what do we think would be good?
I can see it both ways.
I think it’s good and is one of the stronger parts of the Leipold argument.Yes but what do we think would be good?
I can see it both ways.
Joriell decommitted a few days ago and then suddenly signed his LOI today. Doubt enough time had passed for him to really reassess his options.no way they are telling an 18 year old high school student a secret like that .
odds are those two recommitted because we were still the best option they had , even without knowing who the coaches are .
if they really want to leave when the new coach is announced , UI will let them out of their NLOI in a minute and the NCAA isn’t going to get in their way either , given the year
I would feel much better about Leipold if those guys are coming with.So here's a question for the group: Leipold's OC and DC at Buffalo are the same ones from UW-Whitewater.
Would we want them in those roles at Illinois, to keep continuity with Leipold's success, or would we want to try to use our resources to bring in more decorated people?
I got to see the Whitewater program up close, when LL was there (this was 2013). Although it's a D3 program, how its run and managed is a lot closer to an FCS program than you might think (this is true of the top 5-7 D3 programs). This was not St Norberts or Beloit College.
Since there is no FCS in Wisconsin (it's literally the Badgers, then the D3 state schools), the D3 state schools are the rough equivalent of EIU, WIU, SIU, etc. Whitewater has 11,000 students, for example. Not trying to oversell Whitewater and LL, but rather just making a point that there's quite a bit of substance to that program.
The irony is in 2012, Whitewater was upset and dethroned from their #1 ranking, when they went to play a D3 team in Western NY....that team was....Buffalo State.
I feel like Bielema got more of his players than Lovie. Wouldn’t put much stock in that tweet.Just saw this. Hmmm...
Correct. I think since sunkett has been at ESL he’s sent less than 10 players to u of i, maybe less than 5I feel like Bielema got more of his players than Lovie. Wouldn’t put much stock in that tweet.
So we want to keep that going by hiring a coach that he doesn't like?Correct. I think since sunkett has been at ESL he’s sent less than 10 players to u of i, maybe less than 5
They also had a number of Illinois players over the years. So he'll have some connections to local HS coaches.Bingo on the D3 programs in Wisconsin not facing competition from larger D2 or D1AA (whatever they are called these days).
UWW inherently probably pulled in talent above their weight as if you weren’t D1 in Wisconsin and wanted to stay close to home or have in state tuition you go play in that Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference. UWW had to elevate above the other Wisc D3s but the geography and makeup of the school levels definitely helped them fill the pipeline each year
It doesn’t matter who the coach is.So we want to keep that going by hiring a coach that he doesn't like?