The Illinois Football Coaching Search

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. Personally, I think it's significant that two (?) players who recently decommitted have now recommitted to Illinois. I think it's likely that they have been told who our next coach will be.

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no way they are telling an 18 year old high school student a secret like that .

odds are those two recommitted because we were still the best option they had , even without knowing who the coaches are .

if they really want to leave when the new coach is announced , UI will let them out of their NLOI in a minute and the NCAA isn’t going to get in their way either , given the year
 
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Can anyone name any specific "extracurricular stuff"? I haven't read one thing in this entire thread that implicates anything Bielema has done that has embarrassed the university. Not one.

Again, we have a basketball staff where our lead Asst put his last school on probation, our HC was on staff that was paying guys, and at his prior stop had his wins vacated due to academic fraud. To me, all those things would be embarrassing. Because those are actual real things that happened. They aren't private innuendo and rumors. Those are stated public events. But Whitman hired him anyway, and we are top 15 in the country. I'd much rather be top 15 in the country, than not be had we hired someone else.

So I don't get how anyone can claim Whitman is playing some integrity card, and using that as a reason to not hire Bielema, when we know who is coaching our basketball team.
Brett and cheerleaders, Brett and coeds, Brett and college parties....all alleged. You're not going to find news stories out there that verify this type of stuff.
 
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So here's a question for the group: Leipold's OC and DC at Buffalo are the same ones from UW-Whitewater.

Would we want them in those roles at Illinois, to keep continuity with Leipold's success, or would we want to try to use our resources to bring in more decorated people?
 
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So are we all tracking that Collier said Hayes-Stoker is staying?


“Collier said Hayes-Stoker told him he’s planning on staying at Illinois, which helped Collier stick with Illinois.”

There is wiggle room there but it would be bogus to say that and then not.
“Planning on” is the key word. It won’t be his choice to stay or not
 
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So here's a question for the group: Leipold's OC and DC at Buffalo are the same ones from UW-Whitewater.

Would we want them in those roles at Illinois, to keep continuity with Leipold's success, or would we want to try to use our resources to bring in more decorated people?

Whitman would give him control of his staff. Miles Smith was coaching linebackers remember?
 
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So are we all tracking that Collier said Hayes-Stoker is staying?


“Collier said Hayes-Stoker told him he’s planning on staying at Illinois, which helped Collier stick with Illinois.”

There is wiggle room there but it would be bogus to say that and then not.
Chuck Pagano the new coach? 😁
 
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Brett and cheerleaders, Brett and coeds, Brett and college parties....all alleged. You're not going to find news stories out there that verify this type of stuff.

Brett Bielema has been married since 2012. He's 50 years old. He has a young daughter. Those are facts. Not innuendo. That tells me he's a family man at this point in is life.
 
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So here's a question for the group: Leipold's OC and DC at Buffalo are the same ones from UW-Whitewater.

Would we want them in those roles at Illinois, to keep continuity with Leipold's success, or would we want to try to use our resources to bring in more decorated people?
You give the new HC the ability to hire who he wants on staff. Means those guys would come with most likely.
 
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no way they are telling an 18 year old high school student a secret like that .

odds are those two recommitted because we were still the best option they had , even without knowing who the coaches are .

if they really want to leave when the new coach is announced , UI will let them out of their NLOI in a minute and the NCAA isn’t going to get in their way either , given the year
Joriell decommitted a few days ago and then suddenly signed his LOI today. Doubt enough time had passed for him to really reassess his options.
 
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So here's a question for the group: Leipold's OC and DC at Buffalo are the same ones from UW-Whitewater.

Would we want them in those roles at Illinois, to keep continuity with Leipold's success, or would we want to try to use our resources to bring in more decorated people?
I would feel much better about Leipold if those guys are coming with.
 
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I think the coordinators come unless the oc gets the Buffalo job which kinda scares me. Recruiting will depend on the position coach hires.
Them coming doesn’t scare me. The oc staying at Buffalo does.
 
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Buffalo is one of the best offenses in the country, statistically. I think you have to assume the oc will get that job and just hope to be wrong.
 
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I got to see the Whitewater program up close, when LL was there (this was 2013). Although it's a D3 program, how its run and managed is a lot closer to an FCS program than you might think (this is true of the top 5-7 D3 programs). This was not St Norberts or Beloit College.

Since there is no FCS in Wisconsin (it's literally the Badgers, then the D3 state schools), the D3 state schools are the rough equivalent of EIU, WIU, SIU, etc. Whitewater has 11,000 students, for example. Not trying to oversell Whitewater and LL, but rather just making a point that there's quite a bit of substance to that program.

The irony is in 2012, Whitewater was upset and dethroned from their #1 ranking, when they went to play a D3 team in Western NY....that team was....Buffalo State.

Bingo on the D3 programs in Wisconsin not facing competition from larger D2 or D1AA (whatever they are called these days).

UWW inherently probably pulled in talent above their weight as if you weren’t D1 in Wisconsin and wanted to stay close to home or have in state tuition you go play in that Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference. UWW had to elevate above the other Wisc D3s but the geography and makeup of the school levels definitely helped them fill the pipeline each year
 
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Bingo on the D3 programs in Wisconsin not facing competition from larger D2 or D1AA (whatever they are called these days).

UWW inherently probably pulled in talent above their weight as if you weren’t D1 in Wisconsin and wanted to stay close to home or have in state tuition you go play in that Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference. UWW had to elevate above the other Wisc D3s but the geography and makeup of the school levels definitely helped them fill the pipeline each year
They also had a number of Illinois players over the years. So he'll have some connections to local HS coaches.
 
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Well, just got the word it's 95% Leipold. Disappointed because I truly thought Monken was the right man for the job. When you're struggling with in-state recruiting, it's good to go back to the roots and the Monken family is the absolute ILLINOIS roots of high school coaching. I expect an announcement Sunday afternoon.

Apparently Whitman didn't even give Monken serious consideration with apprehensiveness around the triple-option, but I think that's a bunch of malarkey. Good coaches adapt to their players. Leipold is a winner, but can he recruit as a 56-year-old with no Power 5 experience? I have my doubts.


Anyways, like I said, Leipold is uniformly the coach and barring some last minute change of direction to Bret B. or the Wake Forest Coach, he will be announced on Sunday afternoon.
 
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