chiefini
- Rockford, Illinois
If the alleged incident happened on Saturday, it means TSJ probably was not still wearing Newton’s football jersey…
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The police have already filed the the charges and arrested the individual on these charges. They clearly support the charges. It’s up to the DA to weigh the charges and decide if it’s worth prosecuting. The police have already decided there is enough evidence to arrest.
Paperwork matters.
If all these things occurred within the timeframe disclosed in this document it appears to me that the entire affair is an entrapment setup by someone who has ulterior motives. JMHO
No, report clearly states the event happened and ended on 9/9, was reported on 9/9, and was responded to on 9/9. So according to the report, it was pretty much immediately reported and then responded to 30min later
I will not go that far yet out of respect for the accuser, but there is no denying that if those timestamps were put into the report correctly, it looks highly highly suspicious of what you are suggesting. That said, based on the rest of the report I would not be surprised at all if this was later explained away as the on duty officer incorrectly filling out the form.
Might also help that the judges aren’t fans of this DA.
I talked a prosecutor with ties to that office. The police do not file the charges. They submit the reports to the DA who makes the charging decision. Police might not be on board.
I'm pretty sure that is the undertaker and that he came back from the dead a bunch so I'd consider it good news.
If you look at the bottom of the report it has the reporting Officers name and badge number with the date of the report as 1/02/2024? I would think this report would have a date within a day or two of the event to be sent to the DA. No report for 3 months?
So the report was made up today to satisfy a FOI request?
So the report was made up today to satisfy a FOI request?
Ridiculous as in that the accusation has no merit? Saw rumors that the reason why Self is helping is because the same victim has made allegations on a member of the KU basketball team and they found it to have no merit?
IlliniRunIn07
- Tampa, FL
I'm guessing (key word) that the actual report was filed in September, and it is just showing today's date because that's when this redacted report was sent out to the requester.
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
Someone on another message board has said the following:
“Sounds like the DA overcharged and the girl is not totally on board with the rape charge. They are working to get a deal done without any sexual label to it”
That sounds along the same lines of what our fantastic insiders here are saying. If this is true, then what could have possibly happened??? What "crime" could he have committed and how did it get inflated to the extent that it did??? Just an insane and bizarre case. I really hope that he can get his name properly cleared because the damage that this ordeal will cause him in his career and life is just not going to be erased away.
“Sounds like the DA overcharged and the girl is not totally on board with the rape charge. They are working to get a deal done without any sexual label to it”
That sounds along the same lines of what our fantastic insiders here are saying. If this is true, then what could have possibly happened??? What "crime" could he have committed and how did it get inflated to the extent that it did??? Just an insane and bizarre case. I really hope that he can get his name properly cleared because the damage that this ordeal will cause him in his career and life is just not going to be erased away.
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
What a sad and bizarre situation all around (the more we hear, the more crazy it gets). If TSJ is indeed innocent (which seems to be the trending direction), his name has already been clearly muddied by this entire ordeal. All sports shows had him being suspended as breaking news, with the "arrested for rape" tagline running on the ribbons. If/when he gets reinstated to the team due to new developments, this news will not get the same treatment as the original headline. I hope TSJ comes out with a vengeance if/when he is reinstated to the team.
since this report and the charging documents are all that the Student Conduct Panel has (they would not be privy to any more information that TSJ's attorney does not have or is not of public record) in order to make a decision then I would hope at this point they would decide there is not enough information available to make a decision in favor of suspension and wait until more information becomes available. I suppose if this were to happen then the suspension in place now could be lifter by Josh and/or Brad?
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
It has us just as puzzled.
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
Well, one thing I am curious about is...
Even if TSJ's side of the story winds up being 100% true, and this was all seemingly consensual conduct somewhere on the premises of a bar in Lawrence, is that behavior still potentially a misdemeanor crime in Kansas? Because, if so, that could be the basis for some kind of deal to avoid a felony, and avoid any non-consent stuff, and (I would hope) avoid a registerable sex offense.
Even if TSJ's side of the story winds up being 100% true, and this was all seemingly consensual conduct somewhere on the premises of a bar in Lawrence, is that behavior still potentially a misdemeanor crime in Kansas? Because, if so, that could be the basis for some kind of deal to avoid a felony, and avoid any non-consent stuff, and (I would hope) avoid a registerable sex offense.
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Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
I'm going to make an assumption that you're referring to something like public indecency (apologies if I'm incorrect). They were on private property.
I have a lot of hope for TSJ’s return. Am I being naive??
He needs to change that tweet now that we know what is defined as a personal weapon before the media starts reporting that TSJ is charged with rape using a weapon.
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
Private property that is open to the public for business, though... i.e., you couldn't just go do that at Wal-mart without some repercussions, probably
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
It's still private property, so the standard is set by the establishment. The establishment would have to bring the charges if behavior violated their standard, and as far as we know, that didn't happen in the incident in Lawrence.
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