Oh drat. I never thought of that. Nobody out on bail has ever gotten permission to travel with a team, for a job, and so on..Not to mention his likely bond conditions requiring him to stay in Champaign….
Oh drat. I never thought of that. Nobody out on bail has ever gotten permission to travel with a team, for a job, and so on..Not to mention his likely bond conditions requiring him to stay in Champaign….
I’m not saying the info we have calls for it, but If they had exonerating evidence and DA was being stubborn, there would be no logical reason to keep the suspension just because of a pending charge that has no chance of stickingI hope you're right.
You have more confidence in this than I do. Maybe this is all legit, I dont know, but passing the blame/responsibility around is all too common.
There is no standard of proof because the panel is not a judicial body.You mention basketball gains and possible harm to the University. What about fair treatment for Terrence Shannon?
My impression is the latter is why the process with the 3 person panel was created. They act independently of both "the University's" and athletic interests to make a decision based on known facts..
Josh Whitman didn't say what their standard of proof would be. Preponderance of evidence?
Didn't Bob Probert have an arrest warrant in Canada at one point, and could only play games in the US? Nothing at all to do with TSJ, but this made me think of it. Former NHL player for the Red Wings and Blackhawks, for the youngsters and non-hockey fansOh drat. I never thought of that. Nobody out on bail has ever gotten permission to travel with a team, for a job, and so on..
I scrolled through student disciplinary procedures. The standard for both fact finding and decisions appears to be preponderance of evidence.There is no standard of proof because the panel is not a judicial body.
I hadn’t thought of this.Not to mention his likely bond conditions requiring him to stay in Champaign….
My issue is all the hand-wringing that takes place within this Forum over the "harmed" reputation of the University of Illinois. Strong indications are given by our Insiders that this will work out for TSJ, but even Billboards with flashing lights in Times Square will not change public opinion outside of the Illini Community. I have great confidence that JW & U of I have a fair procedure in place that will do what is right for TSJ and the U of I. So lets just go get in the Final Four, and not worry about things that we can't change.
Completely random, but as a child I met Bob Probert and his family at Kiddie Land. I got his autograph on a napkin in a pink pen (the only one his wife had on her). As an enforcer, he was embarrassed by having his autograph in pink.Didn't Bob Probert have an arrest warrant in Canada at one point, and could only play games in the US? Nothing at all to do with TSJ, but this made me think of it. Former NHL player for the Red Wings and Blackhawks, for the youngsters and non-hockey fans
It also contains a law professor who doesn’t care about basketball but only whether the suspension was proper considering the pending charges…The committee will reinstate if they feel it’s right for the university and the player (In this case Tj) regardless of charges or not. That’s why this committee was created. And they don’t care about “public opinion” nor should they
Also keep in mind if they thought Terrence was an actual threat to its university and students. He would’ve been dismissed from the program rather than suspended.
Pretty sure each insider gets prima nocta rights to any one name they choose...I think the way this is handled is a game of 1v1.
Where is the probable cause affidavit District Attorney Valdez??? Obviously, the identity of the alleged victim can be redacted (as it should be at this point) but in contrast TSJ can be tried, convicted and irrevocably scarred for life in the court of public opinion no matter what the ultimate outcome is of the criminal proceedings. Shouldn't part of the presumption of innocence be for not only TSJ but also for the public to at least know what the sworn factual basis is behind felony charge against TSJ given that the incident allegedly took place last September???
I will be shocked if Shannon does not play again for Illinois this year. Just a matter of when
If you think that if the panel puts the odds that he is guilty of these charges at 49% that they should send him back on the court that is fine. I am telling you it is not going to happen.I scrolled through student disciplinary procedures. The standard for both fact finding and decisions appears to be preponderance of evidence.
And a bit of a Goon if memory serves.Didn't Bob Probert have an arrest warrant in Canada at one point, and could only play games in the US? Nothing at all to do with TSJ, but this made me think of it. Former NHL player for the Red Wings and Blackhawks, for the youngsters and non-hockey fans
And I have every faith that this committee of Underwood, Whitman, and Mr. Shannon Sr. will make the fair choice /.sthere would be absolutely 0 purpose of this committee if the people who keep claiming he won’t be reinstated were right. The committee CAN and WILL, if the information they have calls for it
And a bit of a Goon if memory servesDidn't Bob Probert have an arrest warrant in Canada at one point, and could only play games in the US? Nothing at all to do with TSJ, but this made me think of it. Former NHL player for the Red Wings and Blackhawks, for the youngsters and non-hockey fans
If podcasts are your thing, check out Crime in Sports. They have a lot of great episodes (Charles Barkley and Dennis Rodman are standouts), including one on Bob ProbertDidn't Bob Probert have an arrest warrant in Canada at one point, and could only play games in the US? Nothing at all to do with TSJ, but this made me think of it. Former NHL player for the Red Wings and Blackhawks, for the youngsters and non-hockey fans
But to answer your initial question:Didn't Bob Probert have an arrest warrant in Canada at one point, and could only play games in the US? Nothing at all to do with TSJ, but this made me think of it. Former NHL player for the Red Wings and Blackhawks, for the youngsters and non-hockey fans
Dan starts a new clean TSJ Thread...
Loyalty:
As is @DB11HeadbandForgetting the other one who is right the majority of the time... @sharpshot16
and @stuemke5Forgetting the other one who is right the majority of the time... @sharpshot16
Assume it's the same as Illinois where you have to pay 10% to be released. So 500K was actual bond.Did I read somewhere that the bond in this case was $50,000 (could be wrong)? That just seems suspiciously low for someone who, if found guilty, faces a minimum of 12 and a maximum of 50+ years.