Wasn’t there talk on here about his hearing being removed from the docket?
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Illiniblueorange
- Pontoon Beach IL
You have done , said , nothing to earn the respect 0440, Lville or Indy has earned .
For Me , I will stick to what they are saying.
I took the alleged Self involvement with a grain of salt and doubted he'd have any active involvement. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Illinois called him up to try finding out what the hell happened there in Lawrence and for any contacts he might have within the legal system there and be willing to pass along what case they actually have against TSJ.
My guess is that Loren called Self, who sympathized with TSJ and said he’d do what he could to help as a general show of support. But what can he really do? He wasn’t there and isn’t going to engage in unethical, possibly illegal, actions by using his influence to stick his nose into a legal proceeding, particularly for a player from another school.
I hear you. I was going to write something similar last night, but thought I should wait until morning. You've beat me to it. I agree with you. [which seems to be an unpopular position]. No one should be fired or suspended for allegations of a crime. If the person is deemed to be a threat to society before criminal proceedings can be completed, then don't allow bail. Keep the person in jail until the trial. And this at-will employment is just corporate lobbying to reduce employee rights. Similar to the massive union busting tactics that have been going on for decades.
This makes the most sense to me. Honestly I don’t know that “insiders” know much about what is actually happening. Or more to the point - I don’t think anything big is happening right now. It just waiting. Even JW and BU are at the mercy of the court system. This isn’t a basketball issue, it’s a legal issue where even the smartest lawyers can only guess at the outcome.
That sounds admirable, but is that really the way any individual or business operates? Your child wants to date a partner who’s going to trial in a few months for allegedly abusing their ex. Your employee is out on bail for a charge of embezzling company funds. Do you just sit back and wait for the verdict to arrive before you take any action?
Thats fine I don't care - When my info turns out to be more correct than theirs, i don't expect anyone to care either
I made a typo on the date and yes, if Loren Tate is the main person saying Self is involved and working to help Shannon in anyway, that at best a misunderstanding on his part - I'll call him a liar as it is false information
Its the last thing I will post on it until the 18th/19th because there wont be any EXPECTED news until then
In a vaccum, yes I hear what you are saying, assuming no one knows any other information. This narrative changes depending on how much information you have. I'm sure the AD, coaching staff and others have a ton of "non-public" information.
Is this different, or does it contradict, anything they've said? I don't feel like it is/does. Not sure they're the ones pushing the Bill Self narrative (maybe hinting at it in some ways), and I don't think they've said anything about dates except, again, hinting at his eventual return.
I'm not saying your premise on respect is wrong, but I don't feel like his message went against anything else we've heard.
What he said doesn't really contradict anything that anyone else has said?
It depends where flightaware shows the jerseys are currently
This you?
"Delusion is always fun. This team didn't add enough to be meaningfully better than last year's team. 6 seed at best I'd say, which I'm content with, with this group"
I can assure everyone of one thing. As long as these charges are pending, there is no way the University is going to put TSJ back on the floor. The charges need to be dropped or some kind of a settlement reached.
They may have compelling evidence that nothing occurred. If that’s the case they will pressure the DA in whatever way they can. What they won’t do is send TSJ back on the court so the country can listen to an ESPN announcer try to explain why TSJ is playing despite being charged with rape.
They may have compelling evidence that nothing occurred. If that’s the case they will pressure the DA in whatever way they can. What they won’t do is send TSJ back on the court so the country can listen to an ESPN announcer try to explain why TSJ is playing despite being charged with rape.
A. Lol what a weird response.
B. One of the insiders you mentioned is wrong approximately 954% of the time. (Which is fine, I’m here for entertainment. I’m sure they’re a nice person.)
C. This isn’t far off from what we’ve heard from others?
D. Lol again
sbillini
- st petersburg, fl
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Yep, same know it all that said TSJ was the greatest athlete Illinois had ever seen.
Likes to come in and make definitive statements.
K bye...
blackdog
- Champaign
Yep, same know it all that said TSJ was the greatest athlete Illinois had ever seen.
Likes to come in and make definitive statements.
K bye...
I like this one is response to someone calling out people hating on Ty at PG before the season
"I have you screenshotted - you have the guts to admit you were wrong if he turns out bad?"
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
Speaking of weird response...
I've read a several comparisons to the Kendrick Nunn situation in regards to a precedent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nunn have a previous suspension from the team prior to the incident which led to his dismissal? Or am I thinking of Leron Black and/or Darius Paul?
Really hoping for some public info to become available that exonerates TSJ!
Really hoping for some public info to become available that exonerates TSJ!
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
babe wake up, there's a new Illini0440 post
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