Dude. You gotta let it go.
White Sox 2015 Thread
Dude. You gotta let it go.
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
Bailey, I'm messin' with ya! It's like Viciedo won't go away...
Why, DV can play, along with AG. Calling a guy who is hitting 270 a minor leaguer is something you need to let go. It really is ridiculous.
If a team thought Viciedo could have helped them, he'd be on any other major league roster at this point. If you want to position yourself on the other side of the fence of every GM, analytic, scout etc, by all means zoggle. Calling Dayan Viciedo a minor leaguer isn't ridiculous, it's a categorical fact.
I do think he'll catch on as a 4th outfielder somewhere once we're done paying him.
The jury is still out on Avi, as has been discussed at length in this thread. If he continues to produce at this rate, however, he'll be in Dayan's shoes sooner than later. Many pages back I posted a fantastic Fangraphs piece about the disparity between fan expectations and analytical expectations for Avi's season. For whatever reason, he passes the ambiguous eye test - but you can't pair a .270 average with below average plate discipline, power and defense and expect to stick as an everyday right fielder.
So, what's the ridiculous part again?
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
The Melk man made two sweet plays tonight. The running catch of the liner by the wall early, and the quick throw back in off of Plouffe's double to hit Salidino (or Beckham, can't remember), then the relay to home to nail Buxton.
All fo naught, though, we left the bats at the hotel...
All fo naught, though, we left the bats at the hotel...
I'm curious about this too.
Keep two things in mind.
(1) He was always younger than the average player during his MiLB career, although this difference was not overly dramatic
(2) He's a platoon player. He's not being force to hit RHP.
I've actually bought his potential as a 4th OF/platoon OF. Whether he can transition to something more will be interesting.
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
IO, did you see his dinger the other night on the inside pitch? Short armed it right over the LF wall...
I know exactly which one you're talking about. A four seamer at 91 that doesn't get in enough is asking to be clobbered, but he did a beautiful job of pulling his hands in and keeping it fair.
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
That's what big league hitters do. Mistakes end up in the seats. Giving me some hope right now. Would like to see him playing every day. Have melky or avi take some dh days to keep trace in the lineup
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
Avi has had quite a few DH days, and seems to not mind the role. Of course, that leaves the $12M man Laroche riding the pine...what a waste of $$...
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
Laroche on the bench is a waste of $$...but its not my money. Two ways to go about Laroche, sit him and see what you have in young guys, or play him, hope he gets hot for the last month, and goes into the off season with some confidence to start fresh next year.
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
In hindsight, given Laroche's previous few years, there's no way anyone could have predicted the tank year he's having this year. But ya gotta figure a player with his experience would have come out of a season long funk by now...WAY before now.
Pays your money, takes your chances, I guess...
Pays your money, takes your chances, I guess...
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
David Robertson...closer. Let's see, last 2 games, 2 IP, 5 H, 7 R's. Yep, arm must be getting tired after pitching all of 57 innings this year...
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
Yikes. I did not see how the game ended today ...
http://sportsmockery.com/2015/09/vi...all-for-a-3-run-home-run-in-the-9th-inning-2/
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
Avi made a great try. Had the ball in the webbing on a leap over the wall, glove came down on top of the wall and jarred it loose. Anybody wants to give Avi chit on that try, they got another thing coming!
That inning was 100% on Robertson...
And that Sportsmockery article? "Dropped" the ball? Morons...
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
Updated stat, after last night's game (thank God we won)...
DaviD Robertson...CLOSER...3 IP, 8 H, 9 R's...
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
Samardzija throws a CG 1-hitter, 6Ks, 0BBs. His stuff was excellent, the whole game. Went to a full count once, IIRC.
Damn, where ya been all season, boy?
Damn, where ya been all season, boy?
Apparently he watched some film and realized he was tipping his pitches.
Thanks for fixing that on September 21st, Jeff!
:tsk:
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
No chit...
Don't know if that was the case, Bailey, as I haven't seen any reports relating to him tipping his pitches. What I DO know is that he had excellent drop on his slider and change today, as opposed to "spinning" it up there in his last several outings. You could tell from the first batter he faced...
Bob Christiansen
- 4th & Chalmers, a few years ago...Now? Weeki Wach
That's great, Bailey, but it says nothing about the action on his off speed stuff...
This is the point. He might have changed something that fortuitously correlated with having better movement. He may in fact have continued to tip his pitches but had good enough stuff to get guys out anyway. One start tells me nothing about anything.