In order to be like Whitman, Guenther would have had to have been a lawyer, a Bronze Tablet scholar and a former NFL player. Didn't know Ron was all that. Thought he was a PE major?
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In order to be like Whitman, Guenther would have had to have been a lawyer, a Bronze Tablet scholar and a former NFL player. Didn't know Ron was all that. Thought he was a PE major?
I'd take just about anything over the last 4, so that's not a real high bar to clear.
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
Man, I hate that this is a totally legitimate position
Brian Kelly? Butch Jones? Mick Cronin?
No, but to say that he can't hire a good coach is being short-sighted.
The News-Gazette put the Whitman story from a week ago back on top of the sports section on illinihq.com. Maybe they're trying to tell us something.
Please, please Whitman over Chun.
Chun looks competent, but being a cog in the tOSU machine doesn't tell you anything about what he could do at Illinois. He'd make more sense for an established program that needed to optimize what they're doing - not a program that needs to lift itself out of the cellar. Remember when we hired Gary Moeller to get our football program out of the cellar? It's not so easy when you don't have the resources and brand of Michigan or tOSU backing you up.
Chun looks competent, but being a cog in the tOSU machine doesn't tell you anything about what he could do at Illinois. He'd make more sense for an established program that needed to optimize what they're doing - not a program that needs to lift itself out of the cellar. Remember when we hired Gary Moeller to get our football program out of the cellar? It's not so easy when you don't have the resources and brand of Michigan or tOSU backing you up.
I along with many others here do not. I will take your word for it and gladly support Whitman if he is the hire.
This. We're in a not-so-unique situation of having a lousy recent (maybe extended at this point?) revenue sports history. No one is going to be able to come into Illinois and right the ship overnight. We're looking at at best another 2-3 seasons of mediocrity in basketball and probably even longer for football.
Who knows though in all honesty. Wouldn't be surprised if Cubit pulled a miracle out of his arse and did something ridiculous like 8-4 or 9-3. With that said, please give us an AD so we can at least start to feel like there's a light at the end of the tunnel...
We're doing the same thing now. Although "mediocre" may be generous.
Moeller was the DC at Michigan. We hired him in 1977. He failed miserably and lasted only three seasons.
He won the B1G the first three years he was head coach at Meatchicken. :tsk:
RHITIllini
- Chicago, IL
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Mark Tupper @MarkTupper 7m7 minutes ago Mark Tupper Retweeted Jersey Jon
John Groce knows him (Chun) from their days at Ohio State. Also says he's a really good guy. #dechr
https://twitter.com/hashtag/dechr?src=hash
John Groce knows him (Chun) from their days at Ohio State. Also says he's a really good guy. #dechr
https://twitter.com/hashtag/dechr?src=hash
Well, I'm on board with Whitman among the remaining candidates although we shouldn't totally discount Patrick Chun's impressive level of not-Tom-Michaelness.
I do think it's slightly interesting that after nearly four months of people insisting we all had no clue what was going on behind the scenes, it sounds like in the end they made a desperate pitch for (almost) everyone's concensus home run picks, completely whiffed on that effort, and then defaulted to the best remains available Illini Guy with a utterly hireable, diversity box checking non-Illini Guy as the first alternate. Which was more or less exactly what everyone who knew nothing thought was going to happen.
I do think it's slightly interesting that after nearly four months of people insisting we all had no clue what was going on behind the scenes, it sounds like in the end they made a desperate pitch for (almost) everyone's concensus home run picks, completely whiffed on that effort, and then defaulted to the best remains available Illini Guy with a utterly hireable, diversity box checking non-Illini Guy as the first alternate. Which was more or less exactly what everyone who knew nothing thought was going to happen.
BZuppke
- Plainfield
Freaking hilarious.
Kramer
- Des Moines, Iowa
Maybe this is why Groce is safe.
Chun gets the AD job, brings Matta home to ECI and Tressel to C-U to run the football program.
Now, how do I get the blue font to work?
Now, how do I get the blue font to work?
An old bud, Norman Cooper, was left tackle for one Moeller's teams. As they were leaving the locker room at halftime, Coop said Moeller let loose with a resounding Go Blue! Players unimpressed.
Flight 33 is spot on with everything he's said R.E. Rick George/Colorado. Are you a local, Flight 33?
DaChief4ever
- Urbana
Local TV station....shows video of WHITMAN...saying he is "one of the top candidates"...Get ready, he's coming....
Epsilon
M tipping over
- Pdx
I've only been loosely following this thread, so forgive me if this has been posted already. Whitman's welcome to WashU letter makes him look like a rising star. While Illinois is a bigger stage (you wouldn't know it from the current state of our revenue sports), I think the things he has done are pretty translatable.
http://bearsports.wustl.edu/general/2013-14/Whitman-AD
http://bearsports.wustl.edu/general/2013-14/Whitman-AD
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Do we become tUofI?
End this
Nothing wrong with the final two candidates. But they are a step down from George or Tiley to me. If it wasn't for the wait I wouldn't be upset. But this whole proccess was a circus. Wrap the damn thing up now and move on.
Nothing wrong with the final two candidates. But they are a step down from George or Tiley to me. If it wasn't for the wait I wouldn't be upset. But this whole proccess was a circus. Wrap the damn thing up now and move on.
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