2017 Basketball Transfer Thread

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zpfled said:
If his goal is to be an entrepreneur, particularly in the tech space, then moving to Chicago is a big improvement over being in Champaign. Degree won't matter as much as network.

Edit: And if I'm remembering correctly the articles I've read about him, that's what his goals are.
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Check U of Illinois alumni numbers and bios in Chicago, Silicon Valley, Austin, Massachusetts vs. DePaul University. No contest. This was all about "want to" on JCL's part and incoming Illini recruit competition.
 
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Henson71 said:
Agreed. This was the reason he was transferring, of course he was also having trouble acclimating to the new staff, but lots of kids go through that, it was an old coach in his ear at the right time.

Now, he won't have a degree from the U of I, instead he'll have a degree from DePaul and his basketball career is essentially over. Some of these kids get really bad advice and it's sad to see.
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In this case he didn't.
 
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Henson71 said:
I assume you are joking - the U of I producers more tech entrepreneurs every year than DePaul has had in its lifetime. U of I was one of the founders of shaping UI labs in Chicago. DePaul isn't even a part of UI labs right there in its backyard on Goose Island.

http://www.uilabs.org/

There is no way he did this for his tech startup career, in fact, it took a big hit if that is what he really wants to do.
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DePaul alum business leaders ( only high tech guy is from IBM from 14 years ago)


 
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Or you could network with these Illinois alums

Tom Siebel (Siebel systems) BS 1975, mba 1983 MS CS 1985 - net worth $2.5B

Marc Andriessen BS CS 1993 (netscape, VC) $1.05B net worth

Shahid Khan BS ME 1971 (flex-n-gate, Jacksonville Jaguars) net worth $7.5B

Jack Welch MS PHD Chem Eng 1960 (retired CEO GE) $750M net worth

Larry Ellison (attended 2 years 1966) Oracle net worth $55B

Mach Levchin BS CS 1997 Paypal founder net worth $300M

Jeremy Stoppelman BS computer engineering 1999 founder Yelp net worth $300M

Arnold Beckman BS MS Chem Eng 1924 gave away more than $400M before his death in 2004
Neil Bluhm BS Acc 1958 real estate new worth $1.8B
 
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Henson71 said:
I assume you are joking - the U of I producers more tech entrepreneurs every year than DePaul has had in its lifetime. U of I was one of the founders of shaping UI labs in Chicago. DePaul isn't even a part of UI labs right there in its backyard on Goose Island.

http://www.uilabs.org/

There is no way he did this for his tech startup career, in fact, it took a big hit if that is what he really wants to do.
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jcgoldie said:
No way Depaul has a better business network to tap into in Chicago than alumni of the University of Illinois. I'm not from Chicago but I think that idea is laughable. JCL got poached and it has zero to do with academics. That's the way the Illini staff reportedly see it anyway. :noidea:
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I went to U of I. I work in the tech industry in Chicago.

I'm not claiming some kind of authority because of those things, but I am just laying them out as the basis for my opinion, as follows:

Just being in Chicago and making any kind of effort to get connected to the tech community is > being in Champaign and networking there.

Chicago is the tech hub of the midwest, and it's super easy to get connected to engineers, founders, and investors if you can go to meetups, make an effort to reach out to people in the industry, and (if you're a college student) wrangle a couple good internships.

I honestly don't think that, for an entrepreneurial-minded person with a good work ethic, a college degree matters all that much. Networking and just being around the right people matters a lot more.
 
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zpfled said:
I went to U of I. I work in the tech industry in Chicago.

I'm not claiming some kind of authority because of those things, but I am just laying them out as the basis for my opinion, as follows:

Just being in Chicago and making any kind of effort to get connected to the tech community is > being in Champaign and networking there.

Chicago is the tech hub of the midwest, and it's super easy to get connected to engineers, founders, and investors if you can go to meetups, make an effort to reach out to people in the industry, and (if you're a college student) wrangle a couple good internships.

I honestly don't think that, for an entrepreneurial-minded person with a good work ethic, a college degree matters all that much. Networking and just being around the right people matters a lot more.
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But maybe if you'd gotten your degree from UofI in a tech field you would have had better networking opportunities there. I'm betting your degree was in something like history, where you would have little interaction with tech entrepreneurs.
 
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WhiteRhino said:
But maybe if you'd gotten your degree from UofI in a tech field you would have had better networking opportunities there. I'm betting your degree was in something like history, where you would have little interaction with tech entrepreneurs.
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UIUC ECE graduate. Claiming you'll have better networking in Chicago than a NW grad is simply not true. Illinois is highly respected in the Midwest (still not so much known outside of recruiters nationally), but it doesn't get you downtown relationships you wouldn't have from Evanston.
 
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Whitman2020 said:
UIUC ECE graduate. Claiming you'll have better networking in Chicago than a NW grad is simply not true. Illinois is highly respected in the Midwest (still not so much known outside of recruiters nationally), but it doesn't get you downtown relationships you wouldn't have from Evanston.
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He went to Depaul not Northwestern.
 
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Whitman2020 said:
UIUC ECE graduate. Claiming you'll have better networking in Chicago than a NW grad is simply not true. Illinois is highly respected in the Midwest (still not so much known outside of recruiters nationally), but it doesn't get you downtown relationships you wouldn't have from Evanston.
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Wha? UIUC is super respected in tech worldwide, especially if you're a software engineer - it has a reputation as one of the top CS programs, as well as having famed alumni such as Marc Andreesen, arguably the most famous venture capitalist in the world. I say this as a senior software engineer at one of the most famous big tech companies while possessing a MS in math from U of I. Recruiters in the Bay Area absolutely love seeing Stanford, Harvard, MIT, CMU, or UIUC on a resume. Northwestern does not have nearly as strong of a reputation here, and I have only run into one or two NW alumni while I have run into many who have attended U of I & who have worked for Google, Apple, LinkedIn, Microsoft, and more.

Alright back to lurking :eek: .
 
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I find it funny anybody is spending time on an arguement about DePaul vs Illinois concerning academics or networks.

Back to basketball??
 
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IlliniWC said:
Wha? UIUC is super respected in tech worldwide, especially if you're a software engineer - it has a reputation as one of the top CS programs, as well as having famed alumni such as Marc Andreesen, arguably the most famous venture capitalist in the world. I say this as a senior software engineer at one of the most famous big tech companies while possessing a MS in math from U of I. Recruiters in the Bay Area absolutely love seeing Stanford, Harvard, MIT, CMU, or UIUC on a resume. Northwestern does not have nearly as strong of a reputation here, and I have only run into one or two NW alumni while I have run into many who have attended U of I & who have worked for Google, Apple, LinkedIn, Microsoft, and more.

Alright back to lurking :eek: .
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My experience is with East coast firm's and large defense contractors before entering the finance sector, obviously you'll see more recognition from company in the industry. I'm also CE. But props to you for braving the bay area.

Regardless, I don't think JCL cares about those things. I believe he'll have a basketball career in some capacity. I will restate my belief that it's unfair for transfers in this situation to be sitting out a year.
 
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According to Shannon Ryan in a Tribune article, JCL was also considering Gonzaga and Xavier. If that was already well known, then I apologize for the redundant post.
 
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WhiteRhino said:
But maybe if you'd gotten your degree from UofI in a tech field you would have had better networking opportunities there. I'm betting your degree was in something like history, where you would have little interaction with tech entrepreneurs.
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Haha, you must know me in real life, or else that history major guess was really lucky.

Yeah I majored in history. I'm sure majoring in CS would have been better for my career...at least I would have gotten into software engineering a lot sooner. But we're not talking about JCL getting a CS degree...he's getting a business education.

Bottom line is, the tech industry in the midwest is mainly in Chicago. If you want to start a tech company like JCL purportedly does and you want to stay in the Midwest, Chicago is where most of the action is. I just don't think that getting a business degree from U of I is all that important for his career goals.

Plus, maybe Underwood wanted him to focus more on basketball and less on his entrepreneurial ventures. That's total speculation on my part, but seems plausible. In that case, staying at U of I is directly in conflict with his business goals.

This whole conversation started out because someone commented that it's a shame JCL was willing to sacrifice his business career goals because he wanted more playing time, or something like that. I'm just making a point that college is often overrated when it comes to return on investment for people who want to start or work for a tech startup and that a slightly worse (but still decent) school in a more advantageous location could be a net gain for his career goals.
 
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jmilt7 said:
According to Shannon Ryan in a Tribune article, JCL was also considering Gonzaga and Xavier. If that was already well known, then I apologize for the redundant post.
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JCL also made a visit to Miami (O) where his brother Isaiah is going to play.
 
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FC Illiniman said:
Anyone heard any active searching for grad transfer, or this is the roster for the team. Be nice to have another big, just curious if anything cooking?:gossip:;)
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Listen to Underwood's latest interview with Loren Tate. They're probably not adding another player to the 2017 roster.
 
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IlliniJim20 said:
but I'm not sure he gets drafted, let alone a first round pick.
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Under Groce, sure. I still think that if he adds the right ball-handling skillset and hones his jumper he has a future in the League. He's more athletic than some in the NBA.