orange100
time to hop on the wife
That's what Kentucky is doing though.Trying to reassemble a staff and deal with the fallout in late April is #notideal.
That's what Kentucky is doing though.Trying to reassemble a staff and deal with the fallout in late April is #notideal.
Yeah, I'll trust 0440 or L'ville over that random Twitterite.You guys are citing a fan's twitter account who has 300 followers, who is saying what she heard on the radio. Negotiations seem ongoing, but to have a freakout over some nobody's tweet seems a bit premature.
FIFY!Not sure if this was posted elsewhere or if it means anything cryptic at all, but I figured since there is a slim chance it may mean something that we could discuss it for 30 pages:
Yup. He might be right. I think he is hoping he is right. But I wouldn’t put to much stock into what he says.You guys are citing a fan's twitter account who has 300 followers, who is saying what she heard on the radio. Negotiations seem ongoing, but to have a freakout over some nobody's tweet seems a bit premature.
If this is the case then wouldn't it make more sense for Whitman to fire Underwood and make OA the head coach?No one comes to us FOR Underwood. Not saying he doesn't play a role in the process, but zero recruits are calling up U of I because they want to come play for Underwood.
OA & Chin develop and groom our guys for the next level. *OA for Bigs and Chin for Guards
Underwood does no outbound recruiting. He is there once there is interest to talk about where the kids fit in and how he plans to use them. Development plans are all from OA/Chin.
Gentry is considered a game time X's and O's guy and doesn't do much recruiting or developing.
High octane recruits 100% care if OA/Chin are here. They want to know their development and promises made during the process will be upheld.
I wouldn't say freaking out, just thought the wording was a bit over the top.You guys are citing a fan's twitter account who has 300 followers, who is saying what she heard on the radio. Negotiations seem ongoing, but to have a freakout over some nobody's tweet seems a bit premature.
Seems like a judgment call, but I would have started reaching out to others as soon as UK re-countered. If UK had made a play, but then went away after we countered, I would have been okay not preparing a back-up plan up to that point. But once UK re-countered, you have every reason to believe you're going to have a bidding war on your hands. At that point, you absolutely need to start preparing for the possibility you will lose. That way, if you lose OA and CC, you set yourself up to announce their replacements soon after. Languishing with only one assistant for any significant period of time will directly hurt the program and indirectly hurt program perception.OK, so say you are BU, and you still have hope to keep OA and CC, but are not certain. When do you reach out to feel for interest from other candidates? Was is done a week or two ago, now or after it is settled and you lost an assistant or two? I personally hate interviewing someone for a position that may or may not be available. I have done it, but don't like to.
Shabasco said:If this is the case then wouldn't it make more sense for Whitman to fire Underwood and make OA the head coach?
OK, so say you are BU, and you still have hope to keep OA and CC, but are not certain. When do you reach out to feel for interest from other candidates? Was is done a week or two ago, now or after it is settled and you lost an assistant or two? I personally hate interviewing someone for a position that may or may not be available. I have done it, but don't like to.
Oh my god, why do people feel the need to post stuff like this?“We gotta find guys who ARE part of us – and WANT TO become part of us.”
— Brad Underwood, April 21, 2021
This should always be the Illini way whether it comes to recruits or coaches or anything else.
Not gonna beg anybody to stay. That’s not the definition of an elite program or a program with pride. Offer them a fair (lucrative!) deal... give them a reasonable amount of time to respond... and if they haven’t gotten back aboard The Orange & Blue Ship... set sail for new Assistant Captains ASAP. This (Illini) ship IS going back to the high profile ports and desirable destinations we all covet. All aboard?!
You are describing the formula for ending up with a staff full of coaches that no one else wants. College basketball is cutthroat. When you have something others want, you have to fight to keep it or others will take it from you. There's nothing elite about being a pushover.“We gotta find guys who ARE part of us – and WANT TO become part of us.”
— Brad Underwood, April 21, 2021
This should always be the Illini way whether it comes to recruits or coaches or anything else.
Not gonna beg anybody to stay. That’s not the definition of an elite program or a program with pride. Offer them a fair (lucrative!) deal... give them a reasonable amount of time to respond... and if they haven’t gotten back aboard The Orange & Blue Ship... set sail for new Assistant Captains ASAP. This (Illini) ship IS going back to the high profile ports and desirable destinations we all covet. All aboard?!
Are counter offers considered begging?“We gotta find guys who ARE part of us – and WANT TO become part of us.”
— Brad Underwood, April 21, 2021
This should always be the Illini way whether it comes to recruits or coaches or anything else.
Not gonna beg anybody to stay. That’s not the definition of an elite program or a program with pride. Offer them a fair (lucrative!) deal... give them a reasonable amount of time to respond... and if they haven’t gotten back aboard The Orange & Blue Ship... set sail for new Assistant Captains ASAP. This (Illini) ship IS going back to the high profile ports and desirable destinations we all covet. All aboard?!
“We gotta find guys who ARE part of us – and WANT TO become part of us.”
— Brad Underwood, April 21, 2021
This should always be the Illini way whether it comes to recruits or coaches or anything else.
Not gonna beg anybody to stay. That’s not the definition of an elite program or a program with pride. Offer them a fair (lucrative!) deal... give them a reasonable amount of time to respond... and if they haven’t gotten back aboard The Orange & Blue Ship... set sail for new Assistant Captains ASAP. This (Illini) ship IS going back to the high profile ports and desirable destinations we all covet. All aboard?!
After looking at it again, I don’t think it’s legit. Just some fan hoping it sticks.You guys are citing a fan's twitter account who has 300 followers, who is saying what she heard on the radio. Negotiations seem ongoing, but to have a freakout over some nobody's tweet seems a bit premature.
Is this how a Guenther handled the Self thing?“We gotta find guys who ARE part of us – and WANT TO become part of us.”
— Brad Underwood, April 21, 2021
This should always be the Illini way whether it comes to recruits or coaches or anything else.
Not gonna beg anybody to stay. That’s not the definition of an elite program or a program with pride. Offer them a fair (lucrative!) deal... give them a reasonable amount of time to respond... and if they haven’t gotten back aboard The Orange & Blue Ship... set sail for new Assistant Captains ASAP. This (Illini) ship IS going back to the high profile ports and desirable destinations we all covet. All aboard?!
Is this how a Guenther handled the Self thing?
Not my problem. Until it is...That's what Kentucky is doing though.
“We gotta find guys who ARE part of us – and WANT TO become part of us.”
— Brad Underwood, April 21, 2021
This should always be the Illini way whether it comes to recruits or coaches or anything else.
Not gonna beg anybody to stay. That’s not the definition of an elite program or a program with pride. Offer them a fair (lucrative!) deal... give them a reasonable amount of time to respond... and if they haven’t gotten back aboard The Orange & Blue Ship... set sail for new Assistant Captains ASAP. This (Illini) ship IS going back to the high profile ports and desirable destinations we all covet. All aboard?!
My thoughts exactly - if not for Roundball Sage's history of otherwise generally sensible and rational posts, I'd have made a "say hello to Mrs. Guenther for me!" comment or similar.Is this how a Guenther handled the Self thing?
Still need more information..... .You wanna date the hot, smart girl with an awesome personality? Or settle for the girl who no one wants but you know couldn't do better than you?
C'mon man.
OA and Chin without question. Talent on the roster is the biggest factor in being successful in college bball. An analytics/X/O's guy is easier to replace than someone that has grasped the fine art of recruiting.@illini0440
> Would you take what he’s done or would you take the roster that OA and Chin assembled?
I would take Gentry without question. Then I would take the $1.5M/yr and go hire 2 recruiting assistants to compliment his skills.
LOL good point until you realize the negotiations are likely being done by agents.When I grow up I want to get to go on a vacation to sit on a $1.5m offer