orange100
time to hop on the wife
That's what Kentucky is doing though.
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Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
OK, so say you are BU, and you still have hope to keep OA and CC, but are not certain. When do you reach out to feel for interest from other candidates? Was is done a week or two ago, now or after it is settled and you lost an assistant or two? I personally hate interviewing someone for a position that may or may not be available. I have done it, but don't like to.
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Yeah, I'll trust 0440 or L'ville over that random Twitterite.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Yup. He might be right. I think he is hoping he is right. But I wouldn’t put to much stock into what he says.
If this is the case then wouldn't it make more sense for Whitman to fire Underwood and make OA the head coach?
I wouldn't say freaking out, just thought the wording was a bit over the top.
“We gotta find guys who ARE part of us – and WANT TO become part of us.”
— Brad Underwood, April 21, 2021
This should always be the Illini way whether it comes to recruits or coaches or anything else.
Not gonna beg anybody to stay. That’s not the definition of an elite program or a program with pride. Offer them a fair (lucrative!) deal... give them a reasonable amount of time to respond... and if they haven’t gotten back aboard The Orange & Blue Ship... set sail for new Assistant Captains ASAP. This (Illini) ship IS going back to the high profile ports and desirable destinations we all covet. All aboard?!
— Brad Underwood, April 21, 2021
This should always be the Illini way whether it comes to recruits or coaches or anything else.
Not gonna beg anybody to stay. That’s not the definition of an elite program or a program with pride. Offer them a fair (lucrative!) deal... give them a reasonable amount of time to respond... and if they haven’t gotten back aboard The Orange & Blue Ship... set sail for new Assistant Captains ASAP. This (Illini) ship IS going back to the high profile ports and desirable destinations we all covet. All aboard?!
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
- Chicago
Seems like a judgment call, but I would have started reaching out to others as soon as UK re-countered. If UK had made a play, but then went away after we countered, I would have been okay not preparing a back-up plan up to that point. But once UK re-countered, you have every reason to believe you're going to have a bidding war on your hands. At that point, you absolutely need to start preparing for the possibility you will lose. That way, if you lose OA and CC, you set yourself up to announce their replacements soon after. Languishing with only one assistant for any significant period of time will directly hurt the program and indirectly hurt program perception.
Shabasco said:
No, the necessary skills for head coaches and assistant coaches do not overlap 100%.
I am positive feelers were sent out the second the initial offers were made.
Oh my god, why do people feel the need to post stuff like this?
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
- Chicago
You are describing the formula for ending up with a staff full of coaches that no one else wants. College basketball is cutthroat. When you have something others want, you have to fight to keep it or others will take it from you. There's nothing elite about being a pushover.
Are counter offers considered begging?
This type of take-it-or-leave-it approach works as a negotiation tactic if you are still pushing for a deal but if you are suggesting pulling out of the running on one of the best recruiters in the game, who you already have, during a high stakes battle with an elite program - I would call that quitting. That’s not how you become an elite program.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
After looking at it again, I don’t think it’s legit. Just some fan hoping it sticks.
Is this how a Guenther handled the Self thing?
Epsilon
M tipping over
- Pdx
Not my problem. Until it is...
AirNeezy
Orange Krush '13 -'14
You wanna date the hot, smart girl with an awesome personality? Or settle for the girl who no one wants but you know couldn't do better than you?
C'mon man.
The Sprouting Divot
Invisible and Bulletproof
- Miracle Mile
My thoughts exactly - if not for Roundball Sage's history of otherwise generally sensible and rational posts, I'd have made a "say hello to Mrs. Guenther for me!" comment or similar.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
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OA and Chin without question. Talent on the roster is the biggest factor in being successful in college bball. An analytics/X/O's guy is easier to replace than someone that has grasped the fine art of recruiting.
LOL good point until you realize the negotiations are likely being done by agents.
This just has the feel of a recruiting Battle that I don’t expect us to win and then my fears are confirmed. I really hope I am wrong.
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