Illini in the NBA

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TheFameProtector

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FrankNitty30 said:
Way more athletic? Meh. More athletic, yes. Andre was more athletic than his pudgy build would have led you to believe. Ayo is 6’5” 200 compared to Andre being 6’3” 200.

His first 16 years in the league he averaged 14 pts, 7 Asts (3:1 A/TO ratio) and 4 Rebs. One knock is that his 3 pt shooting was bad. But he was very good on 2’s and a very good free throw shooter.

I don’t think they are totally different players.
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Andre had the 3rd most assists over the 2000-2010 timespan, behind Steve Nash and Jason Kidd. Sits at 11th all time right now (LeBron and CP3 have since passed him). Ayo is and always has been more of a scorer that generates assists within the flow of the offense -- he isn't a one-man offense orchestrator a la Miller, Kidd, Nash, CP, LBJ, or our guy D Will. And that's not a slight to Ayo -- those one-man floor setters are a rare breed and even rarer these days, with the tilt towards scoring PGs (Curry, Lillard, etc.).
 
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BretMyBeachHouse said:
It would be. No indication the numbers are coming in that high.
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But Fleischer said the group should quickly have seven-figure funds with the ability to hand out six-figure deals to the team’s most marketable stars, likely men’s basketball players like Kofi Cockburn and Andre Curbelo, the latter who already partnered with the group to market their initiative. The goal is to put to work a sizable, passionate Illini fans base to make Illinois among the most competitive in the NIL field and entice student-athletes to attend Illinois and stay at Illinois.

From the article in the NIL thread if you can believe it.
 
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EllderIlliniFan said:
But Fleischer said the group should quickly have seven-figure funds with the ability to hand out six-figure deals to the team’s most marketable stars, likely men’s basketball players like Kofi Cockburn and Andre Curbelo, the latter who already partnered with the group to market their initiative. The goal is to put to work a sizable, passionate Illini fans base to make Illinois among the most competitive in the NIL field and entice student-athletes to attend Illinois and stay at Illinois.

From the article in the NIL thread if you can believe it.
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Well, I actually kinda believe it. But 6 figures is a big range and my guess is that this will be on the very low end of that range. Kofi has a nice deal with OSF. Other noteworthy deals are not evident.

I also would point out that when people compare the NBA salaries to the possible NIL money, they basically don't factor in any endorsement money on the pro side. Which actually makes some sense because from an economic stand point, athlete endorsements are not generally that highly regarded outside of the most prominent names. So most pros are not going to make a ton in the endorsement game.
 
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ptgrd23

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Ayo first 7 games as starter (last 7 games)

#38 Ayo 15 ppg 55% shooting 5 rbg 5 apg

Top 7 pick in last year draft stats ytd

#1 Cade Cunningham 15 ppg 40% shooting 5 rbg 5 apg
#2 Jalen Green 13 ppg 38% 3 rbg 2 apg
#3 Evan Mobley 12 ppg 51% 8 rbg 2 apg
#4 Scottie Barnes 12 ppg 47% 8 rbg 3 apg
#5 Jalen Suggs 12 ppg 35% 4 rbg 4 apg
#6 Josh Giddey 12 ppg 40% 7 rpg 6 apg
#7 Jonathan Kuminga 5 ppg 47% 2 rbg 0.5 apg

Talen Horton Tucker 10 ppg 41% shooting 4 rbg 3apg $9.5M/year
 
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foby said:
And @sacraig starts the game 2 for 2. Hot sauce.
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Excited Season 4 GIF by The Office


I've been in meetings all day. I've had my gameday jokes all pent up.
 
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Calillini

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sacraig said:
He's sort of like a more athletic Larry Bird.
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You beat me to it, I have been wanting to post that for about a week, but was afraid I would get pelted with large stones. His passing has really improved, along with just about every aspect of his game.
But I cry just thinking about this year’s IllinI with Ayo on the court.
 
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FrankNitty30

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TheFameProtector said:
Andre had the 3rd most assists over the 2000-2010 timespan, behind Steve Nash and Jason Kidd. Sits at 11th all time right now (LeBron and CP3 have since passed him). Ayo is and always has been more of a scorer that generates assists within the flow of the offense -- he isn't a one-man offense orchestrator a la Miller, Kidd, Nash, CP, LBJ, or our guy D Will. And that's not a slight to Ayo -- those one-man floor setters are a rare breed and even rarer these days, with the tilt towards scoring PGs (Curry, Lillard, etc.).
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After 16 years, if Ayo averaged those numbers, we should be ecstatic. That was the original question. I think a great comp for him would be those numbers. Andre Miller was a tough defender, intangibles, high IQ bball player.

That is my comp.
 
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ptgrd23

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Andre Miller was NBA pg. he averaged between 4.5 and 10.9 assists per game the first 15 years of his career. After that he became a part time player due to injuries.

Ayo played 2G at college but may be making the transition to PG since most 2G are the primary scorers for their team. Given Ayo's great improvement in college I would expect him to continue to work on his game in the NBA so he may become a much better shooter or become a much better passer. He has the size, reasonable athletic ability, basketball IQ.

Its going to be exciting to watch.
 

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ptgrd23

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If they only had stayed one more year what might have been

-- Derek Harper
-- Nick Anderson - Final Four
-- Marcus Liberty
-- Deron Williams - NCAA Finals
-- Meyers Leonard(?)
-- Kendrick Nunn(?)
-- Ayo Dosumu #1 seed NCAA, BTT champs
 
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