2017 Coaching Carousel

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Personally, I would love it. I still think he was the best coach we had, at least in recent memory. But you kind of answer your own question. He will be 65 at the beginning of next basketball season. He played at K-State so he has ties to the Big 12 and probably feels at home there. (He and Weber should switch schools :) ) And I think it would just be too much work to get this Illini program going again at this stage of his career.

You do realize Lon was already the head coach at K State and left there to go to Florida?
 
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CAHALL15

Central Illinois
I fully expect Illinois to make the NIT, so the gap of losing the first round there and the NCAAT is one less week. I'm thinking the gap would need to be super small for the great recruiting class we have coming in in trying to keep as many as possible.
You do? We didn't last year and I'm having a hard time believing we can win enough games to make it happen. I guess I don't recall teams with losing records being in the NIT which is the type of record I think we end up with.
I don't know if your sources are just made up, but if there really IS a chance for Sean Miller, I'm on whatever plane, train, or automobile that is.

Sean Miller would be the definition of a homerun hire. I guess he does have some Midwest roots that maybe he wants to be closer to? At $4.5 million/yr, I'm just having a hard time fully embracing that leap.
 
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Sean Miller would be the definition of a homerun hire. I guess he does have some Midwest roots that maybe he wants to be closer to? At $4.5 million/yr, I'm just having a hard time fully embracing that leap.

I would be giddy to snag Sean Miller, and he's definitely worth the 4.5-5, no doubt. It's not going to happen, but if that was a realistic possibility, we take that and don't think twice.
 
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MrOizo

Chicago
This thread is quickly becoming the only thread that matters basketball wise. This season is all but over.
Very true, the "end with a whimper" makes it easier for everyone. I hope the guys takes with making this successful are all over it. Might as well get a jump.
 
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MrOizo

Chicago
I am not saying that we shouldn't set our standards higher, I just hoping that fans will be patient enough for us to get there.

Some guys are suggesting we should be in the tourney in year two or even year one with a new coach and I don't think that realistic. We are losing 6 seniors, could potentially lose Tilmon and some of our other key recruits and who knows who might transfer.

Groce had to cobble together a 5-man class when he was hired and ended up with Hill (4*), Nunn (4*), Morgan (3*), Colbert (3*) and Tate (3*). Hill has been great and Morgan finally became a BIG caliber center towards the end of last year. But Nunn and Colbert are gone and many here wish that Tate had left too.

The key will be how many of the recruits that the next coach will be able to retain. Because, if he loses Tilmon and Frazier and has to replace them with players like 3* players like Morgan and Tate, it will take time for them to develop (if at all).

Finally, whoever the next coach is has got to balance the classes better, so we don't have to deal with the 5-6 man classes every other year.
We will all have more patience if we see signs that the team as a healthy culture, the coach is developing players, and the team gets better over the course of the year. In the present, there is NO long term hope. Trust has been blown.
 
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NC State just lost at home to Syracuse, blowing a double-digit lead with under 10:00 to go. Fans booing Gottfried as the team leaves the floor. Not good. I'll make the bold prediction they fire him and hire Archie, then Whitman lands Keatts.
 
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jmwillini

Tolono, IL
Just watching K St vs TCU. Bruce ran off half of the team there. How does he have better athletes now than we do?
 
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illininks

Shawnee, KS
Personally, I would love it. I still think he was the best coach we had, at least in recent memory. But you kind of answer your own question. He will be 65 at the beginning of next basketball season. He played at K-State so he has ties to the Big 12 and probably feels at home there. (He and Weber should switch schools :) ) And I think it would just be too much work to get this Illini program going again at this stage of his career.

I, too, would love it if Lon came back to finish his career. I agree with your age concern, but if he decided to put 5-more years in and end up as an all-Time Illini coach I would be thrilled.
1) Massive upgrade in coaching strategy/schemes/successful offensive and defensive basketball.
2)No drop and maybe an improvement in recruiting.

I would consider him a great, just short of a HR hire.

Just looked it up. Last I can see his contract is probably set to pay about 2.7-2.8 per through 2018, so this may be doable. He'd be worth more than that if he could turn the Illini around again for a 5-year stint...
 
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I, too, would love it if Lon came back to finish his career. I agree with your age concern, but if he decided to put 5-more years in and end up as an all-Time Illini coach I would be thrilled.
1) Massive upgrade in coaching strategy/schemes/successful offensive and defensive basketball.
2)No drop and maybe an improvement in recruiting.

I would consider him a great, just short of a HR hire.

Just looked it up. Last I can see his contract is probably set to pay about 2.7-2.8 per through 2018, so this may be doable. He'd be worth more than that if he could turn the Illini around again for a 5-year stint...

I love what Lon did here, but I want nothing to do with his return. Illinois can and will hire a better, younger, more energetic coach. Guaranteed. OU is having a really rough year.
 
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illininks

Shawnee, KS
I love what Lon did here, but I want nothing to do with his return. Illinois can and will hire a better, younger, more energetic coach. Guaranteed. OU is having a really rough year.

They lost a ton from last year's team, and this year's team was minus their best player (would've been an all-American without injury) till their last 2-3 games.
 
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he was probably the best coach we ever had. yes, he's not young but I would be willing to bet five years from now we would look back on the last five years fondly and with a lot of pride. I understand everybody's concern but lets not ever minimalize how much he helped our basketball program.
 
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he was probably the best coach we ever had. yes, he's not young but I would be willing to bet five years from now we would look back on the last five years fondly and with a lot of pride. I understand everybody's concern but lets not ever minimalize how much he helped our basketball program.

I didn't minimalize his time here. I said I appreciated what he did. Still, he's not the answer going forward. Sorry.
 
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If you felt like I was singling you out I apologize that wasn't my intention. I appreciate everybody that shares their thoughts on this site. At the risk of sounding rude I will say this however when I hear people on here saying things that could be construed as being positive about coach webber it makes my skin crawl. To me the biggest indictment that can be levied towards him is the fact that after nearly twenty years as an assistant at Purdue during an immensely successful stretch, not one high school or aau coach in the Indiana coaching community saw fit to send a single decent player to him at Illinois? I think that says it all.
 
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If you felt like I was singling you out I apologize that wasn't my intention. I appreciate everybody that shares their thoughts on this site. At the risk of sounding rude I will say this however when I hear people on here saying things that could be construed as being positive about coach webber it makes my skin crawl. To me the biggest indictment that can be levied towards him is the fact that after nearly twenty years as an assistant at Purdue during an immensely successful stretch, not one high school or aau coach in the Indiana coaching community saw fit to send a single decent player to him at Illinois? I think that says it all.

No offense taken. Just clarifying my statement. All good. And I agree that Weber was hot garbage here. It's good to see KSU with their annual meltdown!
 
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BOLD PREDICTION: Our next coach's identity turns on a game played tomorrow. If Cal beats Utah tomorrow night, Cuonzo Martin will be our next head coach. If Cal loses, he won't be.
 
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ILL in IA

Iowa City
BOLD PREDICTION: Our next coach's identity turns on a game played tomorrow. If Cal beats Utah tomorrow night, Cuonzo Martin will be our next head coach. If Cal loses, he won't be.

My guess is Cal goes down 20 at half. Fight like crazy to make it close and keep us on edge.
 
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BOLD PREDICTION: Our next coach's identity turns on a game played tomorrow. If Cal beats Utah tomorrow night, Cuonzo Martin will be our next head coach. If Cal loses, he won't be.

And if Utah wins, the other Coach K should get a look. Either way, someone's going to look good and someone won't.
 
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