With you 100%. I'm not buying it until he starts drawing walks.
I will say, the lift he is getting on contact is real.
2017 White Sox
With you 100%. I'm not buying it until he starts drawing walks.
I will say, the lift he is getting on contact is real.
http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-w...g-truth-about-luis-robert-keith-law-and-jesse
Keith Law joining our Chuck to talk Luis Robert.
EDIT: This got kind of heated!
Keith Law joining our Chuck to talk Luis Robert.
EDIT: This got kind of heated!
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Saw some footage from the game today. He reminds me a little of Garland.
Garland with better arm talent? I hope anyway.
Garland was pretty darn good for us over a long period of time. He was also a first round pick who was pitching in the majors at age 20 - so there was plenty of promise in his arm early on.
If you tell me Giolito maxing his talent resembles Garland's career with the White Sox, I'll cash that ticket gladly.
I'm just hoping for more. Garland was good for a period of time I just don't remember being like he was some stud for more than 2 or 3 years at most. I just hope we get more out of these pitching prospects than 2 or 3 years. Is that being greedy? Absolutely but a floor of Garland would make me overly excited and ceiling higher would make me overly excited.
Garland easily outperformed what the Sox gave up for him (Matt Karchner, a minor league Rule 5 pick) and was an above average to solid starting pitcher for about five years. The Sox then traded him as he was on the downslope of his career and in the last year of his contract for one really nice year from Orlando Cabrera during a division title season.
Garland could be held up as a perfect example of a front office getting maximum value from an asset. They gave up nothing to get him and parlayed him into a ton of value.
Garland could be held up as a perfect example of a front office getting maximum value from an asset. They gave up nothing to get him and parlayed him into a ton of value.
I 100% agree with your assessment of what Garland was in my eyes. A guy we didn't give up much for and got the most out of.
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You might want to temper your expectations for Giolito. I think when the next round of prospect rankings are released, he's going to be the 3rd or 4th best arm in our system - and falling. He's really been struggling up to this point.
Here's to hoping he can regain to promise he showed in the Nats org, but we're a long ways removed from that point.
Oh I'm aware just saying what my hopes are.
Man, what a blast from the past.
FT35
- Naperville
The deal is now official:
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19477394/cuban-prospect-luis-robert-signs-chicago-white-sox
Hopefully he can stick at CF. It doesn't sound like he has the arm to play RF and may not have the bat to be a LF.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19477394/cuban-prospect-luis-robert-signs-chicago-white-sox
Hopefully he can stick at CF. It doesn't sound like he has the arm to play RF and may not have the bat to be a LF.
FT35
- Naperville
That was really entertaining.
Law makes some good points. If this is a mid-first round talent then the Sox overpaid. We could have picked up someone like Jordan Adell at #11 in the draft in a few weeks and got a similar boom or bust OF talent.
That being said, obviously other people (like Mayo) are saying he would've been a #1 pick in the draft, which is quite different from a mid-first round pick. Obviously the Sox think he's comparable to a #1 pick otherwise they wouldn't have invested this kind of money in him.
There are guys who have been picked at #1 or #2 who have been busts, however, so we'll see how he does against Single A pitching.
If he projected as a five tool player, doesn't that indicate he should have the arm for free or bat for lf?
FT35
- Naperville
If he's a true five tool talent then there shouldn't be an issue with him staying in Center. There's such a wide range of opinions about this guy, however, that it will be interesting to see what he does in affiliated professional baseball.
According to MLB.com he ran a sub 6.3 60 yard dash yet his run grade is listed at 65? I'm guessing they think he will slow down as he fills out? Anyone who can run that fast is usually given a grade of 75-80. The rest of his grades are 50-55 which makes him comparable to Corey Ray although Ray is three years older.
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
Talked about on 670 today. I happen to agree. This year is going the Sox way so far. In terms of what they set out for it to be. Qs performance is about the only negative, and I still think he has a ton of value and will bring back a haul before the deadline. They are loosing the right number of games for a team in a rebuild, but I don't think they are playing ugly bad baseball. I like what they did in the draft. I feel good about White Sox baseball. That's refreshing.
I can find a few more
Was really hoping Gonzalez and Shields would have some value at the deadline. Jones too, but I think we're stuck. Hopefully Holland can continue being serviceable, but there's a few metrics to suggest he's been getting very lucky to this point. Reminds me a lot of Latos.
I'm starting to think Q will stay this year, unless he rights the ship, which I expect to some extent. I just can't imagine the asking price is reasonable given how much he's stumbled so far. There's also going to be a lot of available starting pitchers at the deadline.
There's also lots of good things going on! But there's been a few bad breaks this year as it relates to the rebuild, no doubt.
At 18, he probably has some development yet. It is possible he may slow down a little, but he will undoubtedly become stronger. He is already rated in the top 25 as a prospect. In general, from what I have read, the consensus is that he would have been a top three pick in this years draft. Reportedly he was offered more money by the Cardinals. Time will tell how things work out. Have to give the Sox credit for paying to get a top young talent.
Anybody watch today's game- July 2? I was at game and am curious as to other's opinion on the three replays.
First on Sanchez double play, from big screen looked maybe ok as to the overturn, but hard to see evidence to overturn call. Looked like Sanchez clipped bag with front (left) foot.
Second on the interference I thought was ridiculous. From my SEAT in upper deck I saw Choo make a kicking motion, replay confirmed. No way I can see them overturn that play.
Engel's stolen base, unless he came off bag, which didn't appear to me again from big screen replay, how could they overturn? He tagged him at the knee, foot was clearly on base.
Thoughts? Thanks.
First on Sanchez double play, from big screen looked maybe ok as to the overturn, but hard to see evidence to overturn call. Looked like Sanchez clipped bag with front (left) foot.
Second on the interference I thought was ridiculous. From my SEAT in upper deck I saw Choo make a kicking motion, replay confirmed. No way I can see them overturn that play.
Engel's stolen base, unless he came off bag, which didn't appear to me again from big screen replay, how could they overturn? He tagged him at the knee, foot was clearly on base.
Thoughts? Thanks.
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
Only saw the Sanchez DP - on TV it was clear that he was straddling the bag and did not touch the base while he had the ball.
White Sox trade Quintana to Cubs for Eloy Jiminez, Dylan Cease, Matt Rose and Bryant Flete
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
According to mlb.com, the Sox now have the 1st, 8th, 11th, 23rd, 28th, 36th, 59th, 63rd, and 68th best prospects in the game. All hail Genghis Hahn!! :clappy: