Exactly. Without Calhoun & his success, the other two NCs likely don't happen.Jim Calhoun — Nat Champs 1999, 2004, 2011
Kevin Ollie — Nat Champs 2014
Dan Hurley — Nat Champs 2023
Which two are you getting rid of?
Not buying it, the picture is wearing a suit. Looks very distinguishedGuys....that isn't a real account lol
I'd be throwing table legs at that POSIDK if it happened, it could be rather entertaining. The heck with chicken wings, Illinois fans would be lobbing turkey legs.
Seriously, not sure even Indiana would want to troll Illinois that much to hire Pearl.
I was going to ask an open question about this to the insiders!! I don't understand why it's a foregone conclusion that, in this day and age and as things stand right now, it's a no-brainer to walk into Juwan's mess at Michigan vs. staying at Alabama. Michigan basketball is NOT Michigan football, and Alabama seems to have plenty of its own money.Don't think Oats leaves Bama for Michigan
Right - and there were comments about him being a Midwest guy, but I don’t always get that point being an allure.I was going to ask an open question about this to the insiders!! I don't understand why it's a foregone conclusion that, in this day and age and as things stand right now, it's a no-brainer to walk into Juwan's mess at Michigan vs. staying at Alabama. Michigan basketball is NOT Michigan football, and Alabama seems to have plenty of its own money.
Not to ever defend Indiana but how many programs are programs would not be mediocre if you take away their two most successful coaches.
I know it appears this is now irrelevant, but I believe Bjork is already a senior advisor at OSU. So he’ll basically make the hire and Gene will rubber stamp it.Bjork's got to have some sort of input though, no? Just seems weird to me to have an outgoing AD make the hire.
To your point…Duke is the classic example…Get past Coach K…there’s Bill Moyer and Vic Bubas and a whole lotta nuttin’ else…like nothing else.
I’ll tell ya though… there’s one progam who’s 12th in all-time win % and 15th in total wins that has had a lot more competent coaches than Indiana…by quite a bit.
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We’ll likely never touch the mystique and the success of those early Knight years.
(Perfect in ‘76…blah bla bla)
But god darn we ain’t far off in total wins and they’ve been in existence for 5 years longer. Our win % is superior…
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* I’m glad Indiana is Indiana and they got rid of Sampson. They’d be tough right now.
* I think Woodson probably gets at least another year. (Looking solely at the #s)
Guys....that isn't a real account lol
Beilein's success at Michigan - outlier or giant that Juwon put to sleepI was going to ask an open question about this to the insiders!! I don't understand why it's a foregone conclusion that, in this day and age and as things stand right now, it's a no-brainer to walk into Juwan's mess at Michigan vs. staying at Alabama. Michigan basketball is NOT Michigan football, and Alabama seems to have plenty of its own money.
No gold star for you. It only felt like Weber was 210-201 at Illinois based upon his last few years of coaching. In truth, he was 210 and 101, making him 2nd in winning percentage behind only Bill Self in the modern era of Illinois Basketball coaches and right up there with Combes. Hard to believe, I know.To your point…Duke is the classic example…Get past Coach K…there’s Bill Moyer and Vic Bubas and a whole lotta nuttin’ else…like nothing else.
I’ll tell ya though… there’s one progam who’s 12th in all-time win % and 15th in total wins that has had a lot more competent coaches than Indiana…by quite a bit.
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We’ll likely never touch the mystique and the success of those early Knight years.
(Perfect in ‘76…blah bla bla)
But god darn we ain’t far off in total wins and they’ve been in existence for 5 years longer. Our win % is superior…
Definitely More Competent Coaches:
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* I’m glad Indiana is Indiana and they got rid of Sampson. They’d be tough right now.
* I think Woodson probably gets at least another year. (Looking solely at the #s)
I think Michigan is a fine job, but it's not some Blue Blood. In 2024 AD, is it that much easier to win a Big Ten title at Michigan than it is to win an SEC title at Alabama? Michigan obviously has the superior tradition overall, but I'd also argue Beilein is an outlier, as I just consider him a flat-out amazing coach. But I am not sure Michigan's history moves the needle so much that other factors like weather, having to move, who your boss would be, etc. wouldn't start to creep in.Beilein's success at Michigan - outlier or giant that Juwon put to sleep
Of course not sure anybody at Alabama or Michigan really care about basketball anyway. Indiana would be better job for Oates/May/Musselman
Miller may be too dirty for Indiana. Of course that would probably make him perfect for Michigan or Ohio State.
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100% agree but I don't view Tuscaloosa as equivalent to Scottsdale or San DiegoRight - and there were comments about him being a Midwest guy, but I don’t always get that point being an allure.
I’m living in Chicago but If I had to move I’d rather live in Scottsdale or San Diego vs Detroit or Cleveland.
Oh no…typo…good catch.No gold star for you. It only felt like Weber was 210-201 at Illinois based upon his last few years of coaching. In truth, he was 210 and 101, making him 2nd in winning percentage behind only Bill Self in the modern era of Illinois Basketball coaches and right up there with Combes. Hard to believe, I know.
Id question if Michigan is really a step up from Bama. To me the seem like the same tier. Also, I'd figure Oats may be waiting for Kentucky or Kansas to open up(maybe even an NBA job).Right - and there were comments about him being a Midwest guy, but I don’t always get that point being an allure.
I’m living in Chicago but If I had to move I’d rather live in Scottsdale or San Diego vs Detroit or Cleveland.
Michigan is absolutely a better job than Alabama.Id question if Michigan is really a step up from Bama. To me the seem like the same tier. Also, I'd figure Oats may be waiting for Kentucky or Kansas to open up(maybe even an NBA job).
As far as where to live. Oats is from Wisconsin and coached in Detroit for a decade. I could see him having interest in both Wisconsin and Michigan.
Sitenote: I'm partial to the great lakes area but I would much rather live in Ann Arbor or Madison then Tuscaloosa. There isn't really much to Tuscaloosa and honestly better fishing and wildlife up here plus far better cities.
Point being, IU fans believe in the "blueblood" story, as in North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky, for instance. They dismiss any notion of ever having been mediocre (except present day, of course ).Not to ever defend Indiana but how many programs are programs would not be mediocre if you take away their two most successful coaches?
yesMichigan is absolutely a better job than Alabama.
why do people ALWAYS assume coaches want to go back to a state they were born in or raised in or once coached in ?Id question if Michigan is really a step up from Bama. To me the seem like the same tier. Also, I'd figure Oats may be waiting for Kentucky or Kansas to open up(maybe even an NBA job).
As far as where to live. Oats is from Wisconsin and coached in Detroit for a decade. I could see him having interest in both Wisconsin and Michigan.
Sitenote: I'm partial to the great lakes area but I would much rather live in Ann Arbor or Madison then Tuscaloosa. There isn't really much to Tuscaloosa and honestly better fishing and wildlife up here plus far better cities.
Hurley is a Northeast guy. Grew up in Jersey, played college ball in Jersey, coached in Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. I'm thinking he's not leaving that neck of the woods, unless the money is huge, or the NBA calls. And in that neck of the woods, UConn is king. Syracuse used to be up there, but they held onto Boeheim too long and really weekend their brand.Hurley just signed an extension with UConn, but his buyout I read was shockingly low. I wonder if he‘s a poaching target.
According to this article UConn only gets $4 million per year for media rights and runs an average annual deficit of $40 million subsidized by the academic half of the school. Hurley’s salary more than the entire media rights payment. It doesn’t sound sustainable.
UConn athletics report revenue increase, smaller budget deficit
The UConn athletic department reduced direct institutional support by 35 percent in the 2023 fiscal year, down to $30.2 million.www.ctinsider.com