Canzano: San Diego State and SMU eye Pac-12
A look at the expansion conversation in the Pac-12.
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TentakilRex
- Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
While talking about SMU, I might have found the most deluded fan account of any team.... especially for one of few teams had it rougher than Illinois.
https://twitter.com/smu_football/with_replies
https://twitter.com/smu_football/with_replies
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
Woof. Bleak as heck for the Pac-XX. San Diego State tells the Mountain West they're no longer planning on leaving.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
The TV deal being better without them (which is what this means) might actually be a somewhat positive sign, relative to the extremely bleak state of the situation generally.
Shief
- Champaign Area
This feels like a MAJOR ask from ND and not likely to happen. Below are their home or considered home games in the coming years.
2023: Navy (Ireland), Tennessee State, Central Michigan, Ohio State*, USC*, Pitt, Wake Forest
2024: Northern Illinois, Miami of Ohio, Louisville, Stanford, Navy, Florida State*, Virginia, Miami of Florida*
2025: Texas A&M*, Purdue, USC*, Navy, NC State, Syracuse - only 10 games listed, so likely another home TBD
With only two marcee home games (*) per year, I don't think that they have enough draw (viewers) to demand ~$70 mil annually. If they join the B1G, and play Navy and another good team for nonconference games, then ND and the B1G will likely see a higher annual media payout, over current levels.
ILFaninFL
- Nature Coast in Florida
Big 12 adds four new schools
https://www.si.com/college/westvirginia/big-12/big-12-officially-adds-four-new-members
https://www.si.com/college/westvirginia/big-12/big-12-officially-adds-four-new-members
Yeah part of ND's problem is they don't play enough big draw opponents since half their schedule are crappy ACC teams. If they were in the B10 or god forbid the SEC they would have a higher quality level and draw in teams played.
But in the B1G, seems like NBC loses exclusivity
It’s just a matter of time for ND to join the B1G, but is it 2-3 years or 2036?
My bet is FSU and Miami get out of the GOR well before 2036 and we’ll see the B1G get to 20 or more, with ND being one of them.
My bet is FSU and Miami get out of the GOR well before 2036 and we’ll see the B1G get to 20 or more, with ND being one of them.
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
exclusive to see ND play Bowling Green. , NIU, or Middle Tenn or have them part of the B1G game schedule very other week?
their value is against good teams, not MAC or Sun Belt teams
What does a character from Married...with Children have to do with any of this?
Shief
- Champaign Area
Good catch, I meant 'marquee'. English was not my best subject in school and all of the French, Greek, Latin, etc. word origins does not help lol.
These scattered realignments may make financial cents but they make no geographical sense. Hate 'em.
MustangWally
- Mayfield
Kind of like USC and UCLA.
I do agree with the general sentiment that B1G games are worth more than Bowling Green & NIU, but not convinced being in the B1G really changes that dynamic because of a desire to stack home games & a few extra wins to insure Bowl eligibility.
For comparison here is 2023 schedule for ND/OSU/Mich... where this argument started is with 2 Marquee home games; I would argue OSU & Michigan only have 1; plus OSU has one less home game...I'm sure ND could find some other competition than MAC teams if they wanted. I think the added value in the B1G will be mostly in establishing conference middle of the road games.
ND .......... . OSU ............. Mich
Navy ............ Youngstown ...... ECU
TN State....... WKY....................... UNLV
C. Mich ....... MD........................ Bowling Green
OSU ............. PSU ...................... Rut
USC................. MSU ..................... IN
Pitt ............... MN........................ PU
Wake............. --- ........................ OSU
However, regardless of all this, NBC sports has liked the opportunity to having ND to themselves, throw them in the B1G and barring some strange contract exclusivity, it seems more likely they are splitting ND with the other networks. Creating more value for ND only means they pay more & they likely lose sole rights to ND home games. NBC has a great deal today, new deal will be open in market value & NBC will be competing with everyone else. NBC also seemed to want a piece of the B1G games to fill out there Saturday around ND & for road weeks. Just seems like ND will be the one to initiate this, not NBC
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KBLEE
- Montgomery, IL
I see this as ND's Hail Mary to stay independent. When it falls, they can tell their fans and boosters "we tried" before they bite the bullet and join the B1G.
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
pretty much how I see this as well.
they are worth more to NBC , CBS , and FOX as part of the B1G than they are to NBC alone. I guess we will find out how much
they will find scheduling options against desirable TV teams get harder and harder to put together.
Im not even sure USC will want to keep renewing that deal when you have to play 9 conference games every year.
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Joel Goodson
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there's the revenue issue and the scheduling issue. no network is gonna ante up for a weak schedule. that's where the BIG can put the squeeze on.
but, to your point, I think you're spot on
I expect it will be a tough road to hoe for ACC schools. With the lower, locked in contract, the funding will be lower, and that will have a cumulative effect in the college football arms race. If the programs get worse because of it, it's a vicious cycle that keeps them on the ACC treadmill. If they can buy out 3-4 years ahead of schedule, that's still a long time from now.
Joel Goodson
- ties will be resolved
hoeing rows really, really sucks. hoeing roads is even worse, I imagine
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Rowing hoes is worse still.
I never tried it myself. Seems like asphalt and concrete were meant to be un-hoed
Hoe, Hoe, Hoe….Happy Realignment to all!I never tried it myself. Seems like asphalt and concrete were meant to be un-hoed
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