Illini Basketball 2023-2024

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Fighter of the Nightman

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Dan said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1708856233996824741
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Using these offensive rankings just for illustration purposes, look at the games they put on Peacock, lol:

#3 Tennessee at #25 Wisconsin
#25 Wisconsin at #15 Michigan State
#17 Arizona vs. #6 Purdue (Indianapolis, IN)
#6 Purdue at #28 Maryland
Penn State at #15 Michigan State
#6 Purdue at Nebraska
#6 Purdue at Indiana
Michigan at #6 Purdue
#14 Illinois at #34 Ohio State
Michigan at #15 Michigan State
#6 Michigan State at Minnesota
Michigan at #14 Illinois
#34 Ohio State at #25 Wisconsin
#30 Iowa at #15 Michigan State
#28 Maryland at #25 Wisconsin
#25 Wisconsin at Indiana
#34 Ohio State at Nebraska
#6 Purdue at #14 Illinois
Both Wednesday games for the Big Ten Tournament

20 total games with teams in the top 35, including 9 where both teams are in the top 35. Even some of the games where only one team is ranked have been great ratings draws in years past like Michigan/Illinois, Purdue/Indiana, Michigan/MSU, Wisconsin/Indiana, etc. They are really pushin' this thing, lol.

It could be worse, though! We have two games on Peacock compared to the following schools that have at least double that:

Purdue: 6
Indiana: 5
Michigan State: 5
Minnesota: 5
Ohio State: 5
Wisconsin: 5
Michigan: 4
 
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Newmark4thFloor

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Houstown
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chief_1104 said:
Is anyone actually buying Peacock for when NBC is trying to force fans to watch there? Or is everyone just pirating/skipping those games? I, personally, will not now or ever be purchasing Peacock.
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EyeoftheIllini

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Fighter of the Nightman said:
Using these offensive rankings just for illustration purposes, look at the games they put on Peacock, lol:

#3 Tennessee at #25 Wisconsin
#25 Wisconsin at #15 Michigan State
#17 Arizona vs. #6 Purdue (Indianapolis, IN)
#6 Purdue at #28 Maryland
Penn State at #15 Michigan State
#6 Purdue at Nebraska
#6 Purdue at Indiana
Michigan at #6 Purdue
#14 Illinois at #34 Ohio State
Michigan at #15 Michigan State
#6 Michigan State at Minnesota
Michigan at #14 Illinois
#34 Ohio State at #25 Wisconsin
#30 Iowa at #15 Michigan State
#28 Maryland at #25 Wisconsin
#25 Wisconsin at Indiana
#34 Ohio State at Nebraska
#6 Purdue at #14 Illinois
Both Wednesday games for the Big Ten Tournament

20 total games with teams in the top 35, including 9 where both teams are in the top 35. Even some of the games where only one team is ranked have been great ratings draws in years past like Michigan/Illinois, Purdue/Indiana, Michigan/MSU, Wisconsin/Indiana, etc. They are really pushin' this thing, lol.

It could be worse, though! We have two games on Peacock compared to the following schools that have at least double that:

Purdue: 6
Indiana: 5
Michigan State: 5
Minnesota: 5
Ohio State: 5
Wisconsin: 5
Michigan: 4
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I believe we have 3 on Peacock not 2 — but point still valid.
 
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illiniballknower said:
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Right, this very tempting. I looked at these numbers tonight. It looks wonderful if Domask could score even 13 pts/game for IL (down from 16.7 pts/game for SIU), while Shannon averages about 19 pts/game.

But here's the problem with that...

I don't think Shannon could get enough shots to score 19 pts/game, if Domask took the attempts, that he would need, to score 13 pts/game with IL (which is a BUNCH of shots). So, instead, IL is going to have to consider who is the more reliable/efficient scorer. Based on last season's numbers, that is Shannon.

So, unless Domask can increase his shooting percentages across the board from last year (worse FG % than Goode, worse 3pt % than Goode, and worse FT % than Goode), then I don't see how Underwood can start Domask in front of Goode and, effectively, reduce the looks for our most efficient scorer, Shannon.
 
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EyeoftheIllini

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cjw1901 said:
Right, this very tempting. I looked at these numbers tonight. It looks wonderful if Domask could score even 13 pts/game for IL (down from 16.7 pts/game for SIU), while Shannon averages about 19 pts/game.

But here's the problem with that...

I don't think Shannon could get enough shots to score 19 pts/game, if Domask took the attempts, that he would need, to score 13 pts/game with IL (which is a BUNCH of shots). So, instead, IL is going to have to consider who is the more reliable/efficient scorer. Based on last season's numbers, that is Shannon.

So, unless Domask can increase his shooting percentages across the board from last year (worse FG % than Goode, worse 3pt % than Goode, and worse FT % than Goode), then I don't see how Underwood can start Domask in front of Goode and, effectively, reduce the looks for our most efficient scorer, Shannon.
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I have no idea who will or should start between Domask and Goode, but not sure I agree with your thought process. The 4 departed players took 838 shots last year Shannon averaged 2 ppg less last year than your target 19. If the team actually runs plays they’re supposed to, addition by subtraction makes them slightly more efficient than last year and given the number of free throws TSJ manufactures as well as the 3 point shot, I think it is very feasible he can get those extra 2 ppg (actually 1.8) with on average an extra 2.5 FGA per game. But let’s just call it an extra 3 shots per game, so 100 shots overall. So now we have 738 “unaccounted” for shots.

Domask took 421 shots to score 16.7 ppg last year. Your target for him is only 13 ppg. With his role different then at SIU — doesn’t have to be Mr. Everything — and some easier spot up opportunities and such, I think it’s reasonable to think his efficiency will improve. So he could likely get to 13 ppg on 100 less shots than last year. That means we’re down to 417 unaccounted for shots to be distributed among Ty, Luke, Dain and the rest of the rotation.

But if Goode is the more efficient offensive player, wouldn’t you want him getting more time/shots than Domask? Well there are other facets of the game. Adjusting Goode’s numbers since he played much fewer mpg than Domask did last year, he had fewer rpg (4.1 vs 5.8), apg (1.0 vs 3.8), and slightly more spg (1,3 vs 1.0) and bpg (1.0 vs 0.4).

Now all those numbers don’t tell the whole story and I’ve only seen some highlights of Domask, so can’t really comment on things like who is the better overall defensive player. It does seem though that the two aren’t completely interchangeable, so each may fit better with particular players/combos. I do very much doubt that Domask averages 35 mpg like he did at SIU. But I don’t think him starting or having more mpg than Luke is going to negatively impact Shannon’s ability to average your target 19 ppg.
 
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rtbritt

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cjw1901 said:
Right, this very tempting. I looked at these numbers tonight. It looks wonderful if Domask could score even 13 pts/game for IL (down from 16.7 pts/game for SIU), while Shannon averages about 19 pts/game.

But here's the problem with that...

I don't think Shannon could get enough shots to score 19 pts/game, if Domask took the attempts, that he would need, to score 13 pts/game with IL (which is a BUNCH of shots). So, instead, IL is going to have to consider who is the more reliable/efficient scorer. Based on last season's numbers, that is Shannon.

So, unless Domask can increase his shooting percentages across the board from last year (worse FG % than Goode, worse 3pt % than Goode, and worse FT % than Goode), then I don't see how Underwood can start Domask in front of Goode and, effectively, reduce the looks for our most efficient scorer, Shannon.
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I think there is a decent chance that a highly skilled dude like Domask becomes far more efficient when surrounded by better players.

There is also the chance that the speed of the game and better competition shows him as a mid major player, but let's hope it goes the other way!
 
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