Illini Football 2026

#151      
Or.......it incentivizes some people to pony up.

It really all comes down to $ now, doesn't it? Another $5M in NIL and we have a legit shot at going 10-2 and in line for a playoff berth
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#152      
Perhaps Illini football really hasn't changed all that much. In 1991 when Mackovic left for Texas we had a legit top 20 program and some insane talent on the roster. Had enough there to go hire a proven head coach from at least a MAC or similar level of school if not a head coach from a lower rung power conference school. Instead we went cheap & hired one of the worst coaches in the history of NCAA football in Lou Tepper & the program has never been the same since. Credit to Bret that he has brought us to where we are today but if he isn't given the resources it's gonna go right back into the doldrums.
 
#153      
Perhaps Illini football really hasn't changed all that much. In 1991 when Mackovic left for Texas we had a legit top 20 program and some insane talent on the roster. Had enough there to go hire a proven head coach from at least a MAC or similar level of school if not a head coach from a lower rung power conference school. Instead we went cheap & hired one of the worst coaches in the history of NCAA football in Lou Tepper & the program has never been the same since. Credit to Bret that he has brought us to where we are today but if he isn't given the resources it's gonna go right back into the doldrums.
agree

JW had better be working the phones constantly & pressing the flesh at the home games
 
#154      
agree

JW had better be working the phones constantly & pressing the flesh at the home games
To me that is why this loss to Duke hurt so much. The team has to have sustained success to have a hope getting fans/donors excited and moving up the pecking order. An 8 win season would put us on that path and letting that one slip away means the team has to run the table in the toss up games or steal one from OSU, Oregon or Iowa. 5 or 6 six wins would be reverting to the mean.
 
#157      
I took each teams current budget for this year and calculated each team's wins over the past 2 years to find out how much it costs per win. This isn't perfect because this is a one year budget and I'm calculating wins over a 2 year period. My goal wasn't to find out the exact cost per win, but just to compare who's paying the least and most for their wins.

RankTeamBudget2024 W2025 WTotal$/Win
1Duke$10.5M9918$1.17M
2Iowa State$12.5M11819$1.32M
3Cincinnati$11.5M5712$1.92M
4Arizona$12.5M4913$1.92M
5Minnesota$15.5M8816$1.94M
6Houston$14.0M41014$2.00M
7Iowa$17.0M8917$2.00M
8SMU$21.0M11920$2.10M
9Kansas State$16.5M9615$2.20M
10Pitt$16.5M7815$2.20M
11Utah$18.0M51116$2.25M
12Arizona State$21.5M11819$2.26M
13BYU$27.0M111223$2.35M
14Illinois$22.5M10919$2.37M
15Wake Forest$16.0M4913$2.46M
16Washington$19.5M6915$2.60M
17Boston College$10.5M718$2.62M
18Louisville$24.5M9918$2.72M
19Indiana$37.5M111627$2.78M
20TCU$25.0M9918$2.78M
21Virginia$22.5M51116$2.81M
22Colorado$17.5M9312$2.92M
23Syracuse$19.0M10313$2.92M
24Georgia$34.0M111223$2.96M
25UCF$13.5M459$3.00M
26Baylor$20.0M8513$3.08M
27Kansas$15.5M5510$3.10M
28Penn State$31.0M13720$3.10M
29Cal$21.0M6713$3.23M
30Vanderbilt$27.5M71017$3.24M
31Missouri$29.5M10818$3.28M
32Georgia Tech$26.5M7916$3.31M
33Rutgers$21.5M7512$3.58M
34Notre Dame$43.5M141024$3.62M
35Clemson$31.0M10717$3.65M
36Ole Miss$43.5M101323$3.78M
37NC State$27.5M6814$3.93M
38Ohio State$51.5M141226$3.96M
39Oregon$51.5M131326$3.96M
40Alabama$40.0M91120$4.00M
41West Virginia$20.0M6410$4.00M
42Oklahoma$32.5M61016$4.06M
43Miami$47.5M101323$4.13M
44Texas Tech$41.5M81220$4.15M
45Northwestern$23.5M4711$4.27M
46Michigan$37.5M8917$4.41M
47Texas$51.5M131023$4.48M
48Tennessee$42.0M10818$4.67M
49North Carolina$23.5M6410$4.70M
50USC$38.0M7916$4.75M
51Nebraska$33.5M7714$4.79M
52Texas A&M$47.5M81119$5.00M
53Michigan State$23.0M549$5.11M
54Stanford$18.0M347$5.14M
55South Carolina$34.0M9413$5.23M
56Kentucky$24.0M459$5.33M
57Arkansas$25.5M729$5.67M
58Oklahoma State$11.5M314$5.75M
59LSU$47.5M9716$5.94M
60Florida$36.0M8412$6.00M
61Maryland$25.0M448$6.25M
62Virginia Tech$30.0M639$6.67M
63Auburn$33.5M5510$6.70M
64UCLA$27.5M538$6.88M
65Wisconsin$31.0M549$6.89M
66Florida State$26.0M257$7.43M
67Mississippi State$29.0M257$8.29M
68Purdue$16.5M123$11.00M
 
#158      
I took each teams current budget for this year and calculated each team's wins over the past 2 years to find out how much it costs per win. This isn't perfect because this is a one year budget and I'm calculating wins over a 2 year period. My goal wasn't to find out the exact cost per win, but just to compare who's paying the least and most for their wins.

RankTeamBudget2024 W2025 WTotal$/Win
1Duke$10.5M9918$1.17M
2Iowa State$12.5M11819$1.32M
3Cincinnati$11.5M5712$1.92M
4Arizona$12.5M4913$1.92M
5Minnesota$15.5M8816$1.94M
6Houston$14.0M41014$2.00M
7Iowa$17.0M8917$2.00M
8SMU$21.0M11920$2.10M
9Kansas State$16.5M9615$2.20M
10Pitt$16.5M7815$2.20M
11Utah$18.0M51116$2.25M
12Arizona State$21.5M11819$2.26M
13BYU$27.0M111223$2.35M
14Illinois$22.5M10919$2.37M
15Wake Forest$16.0M4913$2.46M
16Washington$19.5M6915$2.60M
17Boston College$10.5M718$2.62M
18Louisville$24.5M9918$2.72M
19Indiana$37.5M111627$2.78M
20TCU$25.0M9918$2.78M
21Virginia$22.5M51116$2.81M
22Colorado$17.5M9312$2.92M
23Syracuse$19.0M10313$2.92M
24Georgia$34.0M111223$2.96M
25UCF$13.5M459$3.00M
26Baylor$20.0M8513$3.08M
27Kansas$15.5M5510$3.10M
28Penn State$31.0M13720$3.10M
29Cal$21.0M6713$3.23M
30Vanderbilt$27.5M71017$3.24M
31Missouri$29.5M10818$3.28M
32Georgia Tech$26.5M7916$3.31M
33Rutgers$21.5M7512$3.58M
34Notre Dame$43.5M141024$3.62M
35Clemson$31.0M10717$3.65M
36Ole Miss$43.5M101323$3.78M
37NC State$27.5M6814$3.93M
38Ohio State$51.5M141226$3.96M
39Oregon$51.5M131326$3.96M
40Alabama$40.0M91120$4.00M
41West Virginia$20.0M6410$4.00M
42Oklahoma$32.5M61016$4.06M
43Miami$47.5M101323$4.13M
44Texas Tech$41.5M81220$4.15M
45Northwestern$23.5M4711$4.27M
46Michigan$37.5M8917$4.41M
47Texas$51.5M131023$4.48M
48Tennessee$42.0M10818$4.67M
49North Carolina$23.5M6410$4.70M
50USC$38.0M7916$4.75M
51Nebraska$33.5M7714$4.79M
52Texas A&M$47.5M81119$5.00M
53Michigan State$23.0M549$5.11M
54Stanford$18.0M347$5.14M
55South Carolina$34.0M9413$5.23M
56Kentucky$24.0M459$5.33M
57Arkansas$25.5M729$5.67M
58Oklahoma State$11.5M314$5.75M
59LSU$47.5M9716$5.94M
60Florida$36.0M8412$6.00M
61Maryland$25.0M448$6.25M
62Virginia Tech$30.0M639$6.67M
63Auburn$33.5M5510$6.70M
64UCLA$27.5M538$6.88M
65Wisconsin$31.0M549$6.89M
66Florida State$26.0M257$7.43M
67Mississippi State$29.0M257$8.29M
68Purdue$16.5M123$11.00M
Purdue is really bad at this.
 
#160      
I took each teams current budget for this year and calculated each team's wins over the past 2 years to find out how much it costs per win. This isn't perfect because this is a one year budget and I'm calculating wins over a 2 year period. My goal wasn't to find out the exact cost per win, but just to compare who's paying the least and most for their wins.

RankTeamBudget2024 W2025 WTotal$/Win
1Duke$10.5M9918$1.17M
2Iowa State$12.5M11819$1.32M
3Cincinnati$11.5M5712$1.92M
4Arizona$12.5M4913$1.92M
5Minnesota$15.5M8816$1.94M
6Houston$14.0M41014$2.00M
7Iowa$17.0M8917$2.00M
8SMU$21.0M11920$2.10M
9Kansas State$16.5M9615$2.20M
10Pitt$16.5M7815$2.20M
11Utah$18.0M51116$2.25M
12Arizona State$21.5M11819$2.26M
13BYU$27.0M111223$2.35M
14Illinois$22.5M10919$2.37M
15Wake Forest$16.0M4913$2.46M
16Washington$19.5M6915$2.60M
17Boston College$10.5M718$2.62M
18Louisville$24.5M9918$2.72M
19Indiana$37.5M111627$2.78M
20TCU$25.0M9918$2.78M
21Virginia$22.5M51116$2.81M
22Colorado$17.5M9312$2.92M
23Syracuse$19.0M10313$2.92M
24Georgia$34.0M111223$2.96M
25UCF$13.5M459$3.00M
26Baylor$20.0M8513$3.08M
27Kansas$15.5M5510$3.10M
28Penn State$31.0M13720$3.10M
29Cal$21.0M6713$3.23M
30Vanderbilt$27.5M71017$3.24M
31Missouri$29.5M10818$3.28M
32Georgia Tech$26.5M7916$3.31M
33Rutgers$21.5M7512$3.58M
34Notre Dame$43.5M141024$3.62M
35Clemson$31.0M10717$3.65M
36Ole Miss$43.5M101323$3.78M
37NC State$27.5M6814$3.93M
38Ohio State$51.5M141226$3.96M
39Oregon$51.5M131326$3.96M
40Alabama$40.0M91120$4.00M
41West Virginia$20.0M6410$4.00M
42Oklahoma$32.5M61016$4.06M
43Miami$47.5M101323$4.13M
44Texas Tech$41.5M81220$4.15M
45Northwestern$23.5M4711$4.27M
46Michigan$37.5M8917$4.41M
47Texas$51.5M131023$4.48M
48Tennessee$42.0M10818$4.67M
49North Carolina$23.5M6410$4.70M
50USC$38.0M7916$4.75M
51Nebraska$33.5M7714$4.79M
52Texas A&M$47.5M81119$5.00M
53Michigan State$23.0M549$5.11M
54Stanford$18.0M347$5.14M
55South Carolina$34.0M9413$5.23M
56Kentucky$24.0M459$5.33M
57Arkansas$25.5M729$5.67M
58Oklahoma State$11.5M314$5.75M
59LSU$47.5M9716$5.94M
60Florida$36.0M8412$6.00M
61Maryland$25.0M448$6.25M
62Virginia Tech$30.0M639$6.67M
63Auburn$33.5M5510$6.70M
64UCLA$27.5M538$6.88M
65Wisconsin$31.0M549$6.89M
66Florida State$26.0M257$7.43M
67Mississippi State$29.0M257$8.29M
68Purdue$16.5M123$11.00M
Had Claude put this on a chart. We're +5.3 wins. Purdue is -9.0 wins.

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#161      
Many sports involve perishable skills requiring practice to maintain full proficiency.
Tackling is a perishable skill? In football? It's a required skill that's taught in middle school or earlier.

All of these guys know how to tackle opponents with similar size, speed and athleticism. When the opponents measurables are better than their own....that's where the problem lies. The RB for Duke was the best athlete on the field and we couldn't tackle him.
 
#163      
The fact that NORTHWESTERN has a higher budget than we do speaks volumes...
Northwestern probably spends next to nothing on basketball while we spend near the top.

Looking at this chart you can see that a lot of the top basketball programs are near the bottom of this, and I bet the reverse is also true. NIL dollars aren't an infinite resource and most dollars probably come out of the same pool of boosters for both football and basketball.

I've always kinda thought with NIL you'd start to see some schools prioritizing one or the other as the primary focus. It's going to be hard for anyone to put together the NIL needed to be a top team in both football and basketball. Boosters want a championship, and if basketball looks more promising then the enthusiasm, and money, will go that direction. And vice versa. My guess is that Indiana, for example, saw it's boosters shift their focus to football and left DeVries out to dry a bit.
 
#164      
Tackling is a perishable skill? In football? It's a required skill that's taught in middle school or earlier.

All of these guys know how to tackle opponents with similar size, speed and athleticism. When the opponents measurables are better than their own....that's where the problem lies. The RB for Duke was the best athlete on the field and we couldn't tackle him.
Perishable in that you can’t do it at a consistently high level w/o ongoing practice. Good performance doesn’t require practice, but excellence under pressure when things happen very fast does. Why do baseball players bother with batting practice? Kickers practice kicking. Quarterbacks practice passing. Receivers practice catching.

Our tackling was awful against UAB too, and they didn’t outmatch us in measurable and athleticism. I’m sure we still knew how to tackle, but we looked rusty in both games. Knowing how isn’t enough.
 
#165      
When will we start getting some of the younger RBs some caries? They list Javari Barnett at 235 - would be helpful to supplement the 2 speed backs in front of him
Yes, obviously our running game is not going to be a strength once again this year.
 
#167      
Perishable in that you can’t do it at a consistently high level w/o ongoing practice. Good performance doesn’t require practice, but excellence under pressure when things happen very fast does. Why do baseball players bother with batting practice? Kickers practice kicking. Quarterbacks practice passing. Receivers practice catching.

Our tackling was awful against UAB too, and they didn’t outmatch us in measurable and athleticism. I’m sure we still knew how to tackle, but we looked rusty in both games. Knowing how isn’t enough.
Also it matters where the tackling is being done. 4 to 5 yards up field is not doing you much good.
 
#168      
Perhaps Illini football really hasn't changed all that much. In 1991 when Mackovic left for Texas we had a legit top 20 program and some insane talent on the roster. Had enough there to go hire a proven head coach from at least a MAC or similar level of school if not a head coach from a lower rung power conference school. Instead we went cheap & hired one of the worst coaches in the history of NCAA football in Lou Tepper & the program has never been the same since. Credit to Bret that he has brought us to where we are today but if he isn't given the resources it's gonna go right back into the doldrums.
Crucial mistake. Remember Mackovic was AD as well, so we had no leadership in making that hire.
 
#169      
Let's talk about The Mission, which at Illinois is always to win six no matter what happened last year.

Purdue is of course the most can't-lose game on our schedule with the exception of SIU. With the Duke loss, MSU has become an absolute make-or-break game for our season.

The schedule after MSU is Oregon, @MD, Nebraska, @UCLA, Iowa, @Nern. I'm not banking on beating Oregon or Iowa at home, Nebraska may be coming into their own and UCLA looks pretty tough especially for a West Coast road game. Maryland and Nern look like the most gettable of these. I like our odds of getting two way more than our odds of getting three.

Absolutely CAN NOT lose to Michigan State, which is gonna be a problem because they have a commitment to running the ball and a pretty good RB.
 
#172      
Bilemna has done a good job with what he has to work with. While I agree Duke should have been a win, he seems to pull more rabbits out of his hat than not. Hopefully we can win big this week and play respectfully the following. I think everyone knows who will win that game. I would never have thought that we would win this many games and go to three bowls against SEC teams and win two of them.
 
#173      


The fact that NORTHWESTERN has a higher budget than we do speaks volumes...

Now we know the genesis of the defensive problems this year (As BB has mentioned)..If this funding does not change dramatically in the near future, we will not have a top competitive team in the future regardless who is coaching.. And the fact that 7 big teams including Indiana, Northwestern, Maryland, MSU spends more than us is a real problem..
 
#174      
#175      
OTOH, ESPN says that colleges spent over $533 million in the last 10 years just on dead money contacts for ex-coaches, not counting recent LSU, TCU, TTU and UConn etc football firings. A guest professor on Stephen A. Smith yesterday was saying that colleges currently spend little or nothing on players and want the proposed “Save College Sports Act” so they can get all those NIL dollars for themselves. That’s in part to repay all those hasty personnel decisions, which have added over a billion $ in expenses since 2005.

 
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