Illini Football 2026

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#152      
If 10-3 followed by 9-4 to go along with back to back SEC Bowl wins gets us to 14th in conference, I’m scared to find out where 6-6 will place us.
Or.......it incentivizes some people to pony up.

It really all comes down to $ now, doesn't it? Another $5M in NIL and we have a legit shot at going 10-2 and in line for a playoff berth
 
#153      
From what I understand, it’s not that they were caught off guard by DL market, but more so, our current D-Lineman had agreed to come back. Them deciding to transfer is what caught them off guard.

This is a circular issue. They were caught off-guard because TAMU was offering many multiples more to McCollum than Illinois was or willing to pay. You can also look at how the program responded and the players they were able to convince to join the team was not impressive. There was an incorrect assumption of the defensive line market and the on-field results are showing that.

And that’s a huge problem in two respects. First, it ensures salaries remain an unpredictable moving target. How is a coach supposed to plan and budget with any confidence?

I assume the arms race discourages even some mega donors, who have no confidence their gift will move the needle. Do you want you give a couple million bucks only to find your team still can’t afford much talent?

This is not a new problem, assistant coach salaries have been growing substantially for decades, staffs are 5x bigger than 20 years ago, recruiting budgets have likely 100x'd in the same time period, and now almost every P4 program has a GM and staff dedicated to personnel, recruiting, portal, and coaching staff financials. They are (handsomely) paid to project the costs and organize a plan for roster construction. If you do a poor job of allocating your resources, the subsequent on-field results will impact your employment status.
 
#154      
Maybe someone on here knows the answer to this? Aside from the obvious, how does it benefit a large donor to give millions every year to NIL? If they aren’t a fanatic or see NIL for what it sort of is (money pit with no guarantee of CFP success) then maybe not much?
 
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#155      
According to the Athletic, we were in the $19-22M range, which put us close to the bottom of the BIG and less than half of what tOSU and Oregon spent, and roughly half of what UM, IU and USC had available.
The crazy part is in 2024 when OSU won the championship the talking points were about their $20M roster. So, the cost has over doubled since then.
 
#157      
Curious to know where IU was 3 years ago.
Edit: …relative to the rest of the B1G. I’m sure everyone was lower as this seems to be a fast growing monster but I’d be curious to see their rise vis-a-vis budget in this time.
 
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#158      
What I also take from this somewhat is that, yeah the playing field is not equal. So any and every time we pull an upset on Ohio State, Michigan, USC, and other high spenders, it is absolutely embarrassing for them.

Ohio State has a roster worth nearly twice as much as us? If we’re to win in that condition, they deserve to be drug the mud over how that happens. A loss is expected and sucks, but a win? For example a 2007 type event, I’ll spend the rest of my days reminding them of that upset without mercy, because with how much resources they get to put towards their team. Like an MLS team beating a Premier League team.
 
#161      
We complain about lack of money for serious talent, yet we just lost to a team that has significantly less $ than we do... That's a tough pill to swallow.
Upsets happen. Oregon just lost to Oklahoma St.

But on average, the teams with the most money win the most games. If we would’ve had an extra $10 million in NIL and were able to adequately build our front 6 on defense, would we be better than we are now?
 
#162      
Probably the best and most accurate reporting on actual roster costs we've had in a long time. Not sure if its paywalled but here's where we are compared to the rest of the Big Ten (how the heck are we poorer than Northwestern, Rutgers, and UCLA?)_:

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We're also right near the bottom of the entire P4 with schools like Cal (!), Virginia, BYU, NC State, TCU, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt all with deeper pockets this season:
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How is this possible?
 
#163      
Probably the best and most accurate reporting on actual roster costs we've had in a long time. Not sure if its paywalled but here's where we are compared to the rest of the Big Ten (how the heck are we poorer than Northwestern, Rutgers, and UCLA?)_:

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We're also right near the bottom of the entire P4 with schools like Cal (!), Virginia, BYU, NC State, TCU, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt all with deeper pockets this season:
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How is this possible?
How is Rutgers that bad with more money?
 
#164      
On an unrelated note, did you guys know Beckman’s “take away those 3 plays” quote was basically fake? Made up by the media essentially.

Here’s the story from Robert’s latest article. I had no idea:

After Illinois lost at Washington 44-19 in 2014, the following quote was all everyone talked about after the game. It became the defining quote of the entire Tim Beckman era:



The issue with that quote, as I wrote at the time, was that it was a mashup quote. I was standing right there with the other media members at Husky Stadium. He did not say those three sentences consecutively. They were simply combined to make it sound like one quote.

He said the "big strike" thing in reference to the 21 point blitz (in the first half, Illinois gave up a 75 yard bomb, a fumble return for a touchdown three plays later, and a pick six not long after that), then he answered a question about penalties in the game, then he answered a question about the pressure from Washington's defensive ends, and then he was asked what message he gave to his team at halftime. He said that he told his team there were still 30 minutes left and that "you take out 21 points on three plays and we're in this game" as a way to communicate that there's a lot of football left. (Spoiler: we did not come back in the second half.)

With that context (answering a "how did you try to rally your team at halftime?" question), it's a fairly innocuous quote. Combine one of his answers from earlier ("in three plays we gave up 21 points") with that answer, making it sound like he stood in front of the media after a game he lost 44-19 and said "you take out 21 points on three plays and we're in this football game", and it will take off like wildfire. It's now all you remember about Beckman. And it was cooked up on a laptop by not telling the reader that he was asked to quote himself from halftime when he was trying to rally the troops for a comeback.

The bigger question is why were we playing Washington in a non conference game? Because our idiot AD wanted to commemorate the 1963 Rose Bowl game. You wanna commemorate something, make a coin.
 
#166      
Maybe someone on here knows the answer to this? Aside from the obvious, how does it benefit a large donor to give millions every year to NIL? If they aren’t a fanatic or see NIL for what it sort of is (money pit with no guarantee of CFP success) then maybe not much?
Pretty unlimited access to the program, seats, bowl games, etc?
 
#167      
Perhaps Illini football really hasn't changed all that much. In 1991 when Mackovic left for Texas we had a legit top 20 program and some insane talent on the roster. Had enough there to go hire a proven head coach from at least a MAC or similar level of school if not a head coach from a lower rung power conference school. Instead we went cheap & hired one of the worst coaches in the history of NCAA football in Lou Tepper & the program has never been the same since. Credit to Bret that he has brought us to where we are today but if he isn't given the resources it's gonna go right back into the doldrums.
 
#168      
Perhaps Illini football really hasn't changed all that much. In 1991 when Mackovic left for Texas we had a legit top 20 program and some insane talent on the roster. Had enough there to go hire a proven head coach from at least a MAC or similar level of school if not a head coach from a lower rung power conference school. Instead we went cheap & hired one of the worst coaches in the history of NCAA football in Lou Tepper & the program has never been the same since. Credit to Bret that he has brought us to where we are today but if he isn't given the resources it's gonna go right back into the doldrums.
agree

JW had better be working the phones constantly & pressing the flesh at the home games
 
#169      
agree

JW had better be working the phones constantly & pressing the flesh at the home games
To me that is why this loss to Duke hurt so much. The team has to have sustained success to have a hope getting fans/donors excited and moving up the pecking order. An 8 win season would put us on that path and letting that one slip away means the team has to run the table in the toss up games or steal one from OSU, Oregon or Iowa. 5 or 6 six wins would be reverting to the mean.
 
#172      
I took each teams current budget for this year and calculated each team's wins over the past 2 years to find out how much it costs per win. This isn't perfect because this is a one year budget and I'm calculating wins over a 2 year period. My goal wasn't to find out the exact cost per win, but just to compare who's paying the least and most for their wins.

RankTeamBudget2024 W2025 WTotal$/Win
1Duke$10.5M9918$1.17M
2Iowa State$12.5M11819$1.32M
3Cincinnati$11.5M5712$1.92M
4Arizona$12.5M4913$1.92M
5Minnesota$15.5M8816$1.94M
6Houston$14.0M41014$2.00M
7Iowa$17.0M8917$2.00M
8SMU$21.0M11920$2.10M
9Kansas State$16.5M9615$2.20M
10Pitt$16.5M7815$2.20M
11Utah$18.0M51116$2.25M
12Arizona State$21.5M11819$2.26M
13BYU$27.0M111223$2.35M
14Illinois$22.5M10919$2.37M
15Wake Forest$16.0M4913$2.46M
16Washington$19.5M6915$2.60M
17Boston College$10.5M718$2.62M
18Louisville$24.5M9918$2.72M
19Indiana$37.5M111627$2.78M
20TCU$25.0M9918$2.78M
21Virginia$22.5M51116$2.81M
22Colorado$17.5M9312$2.92M
23Syracuse$19.0M10313$2.92M
24Georgia$34.0M111223$2.96M
25UCF$13.5M459$3.00M
26Baylor$20.0M8513$3.08M
27Kansas$15.5M5510$3.10M
28Penn State$31.0M13720$3.10M
29Cal$21.0M6713$3.23M
30Vanderbilt$27.5M71017$3.24M
31Missouri$29.5M10818$3.28M
32Georgia Tech$26.5M7916$3.31M
33Rutgers$21.5M7512$3.58M
34Notre Dame$43.5M141024$3.62M
35Clemson$31.0M10717$3.65M
36Ole Miss$43.5M101323$3.78M
37NC State$27.5M6814$3.93M
38Ohio State$51.5M141226$3.96M
39Oregon$51.5M131326$3.96M
40Alabama$40.0M91120$4.00M
41West Virginia$20.0M6410$4.00M
42Oklahoma$32.5M61016$4.06M
43Miami$47.5M101323$4.13M
44Texas Tech$41.5M81220$4.15M
45Northwestern$23.5M4711$4.27M
46Michigan$37.5M8917$4.41M
47Texas$51.5M131023$4.48M
48Tennessee$42.0M10818$4.67M
49North Carolina$23.5M6410$4.70M
50USC$38.0M7916$4.75M
51Nebraska$33.5M7714$4.79M
52Texas A&M$47.5M81119$5.00M
53Michigan State$23.0M549$5.11M
54Stanford$18.0M347$5.14M
55South Carolina$34.0M9413$5.23M
56Kentucky$24.0M459$5.33M
57Arkansas$25.5M729$5.67M
58Oklahoma State$11.5M314$5.75M
59LSU$47.5M9716$5.94M
60Florida$36.0M8412$6.00M
61Maryland$25.0M448$6.25M
62Virginia Tech$30.0M639$6.67M
63Auburn$33.5M5510$6.70M
64UCLA$27.5M538$6.88M
65Wisconsin$31.0M549$6.89M
66Florida State$26.0M257$7.43M
67Mississippi State$29.0M257$8.29M
68Purdue$16.5M123$11.00M
 
#173      
I took each teams current budget for this year and calculated each team's wins over the past 2 years to find out how much it costs per win. This isn't perfect because this is a one year budget and I'm calculating wins over a 2 year period. My goal wasn't to find out the exact cost per win, but just to compare who's paying the least and most for their wins.

RankTeamBudget2024 W2025 WTotal$/Win
1Duke$10.5M9918$1.17M
2Iowa State$12.5M11819$1.32M
3Cincinnati$11.5M5712$1.92M
4Arizona$12.5M4913$1.92M
5Minnesota$15.5M8816$1.94M
6Houston$14.0M41014$2.00M
7Iowa$17.0M8917$2.00M
8SMU$21.0M11920$2.10M
9Kansas State$16.5M9615$2.20M
10Pitt$16.5M7815$2.20M
11Utah$18.0M51116$2.25M
12Arizona State$21.5M11819$2.26M
13BYU$27.0M111223$2.35M
14Illinois$22.5M10919$2.37M
15Wake Forest$16.0M4913$2.46M
16Washington$19.5M6915$2.60M
17Boston College$10.5M718$2.62M
18Louisville$24.5M9918$2.72M
19Indiana$37.5M111627$2.78M
20TCU$25.0M9918$2.78M
21Virginia$22.5M51116$2.81M
22Colorado$17.5M9312$2.92M
23Syracuse$19.0M10313$2.92M
24Georgia$34.0M111223$2.96M
25UCF$13.5M459$3.00M
26Baylor$20.0M8513$3.08M
27Kansas$15.5M5510$3.10M
28Penn State$31.0M13720$3.10M
29Cal$21.0M6713$3.23M
30Vanderbilt$27.5M71017$3.24M
31Missouri$29.5M10818$3.28M
32Georgia Tech$26.5M7916$3.31M
33Rutgers$21.5M7512$3.58M
34Notre Dame$43.5M141024$3.62M
35Clemson$31.0M10717$3.65M
36Ole Miss$43.5M101323$3.78M
37NC State$27.5M6814$3.93M
38Ohio State$51.5M141226$3.96M
39Oregon$51.5M131326$3.96M
40Alabama$40.0M91120$4.00M
41West Virginia$20.0M6410$4.00M
42Oklahoma$32.5M61016$4.06M
43Miami$47.5M101323$4.13M
44Texas Tech$41.5M81220$4.15M
45Northwestern$23.5M4711$4.27M
46Michigan$37.5M8917$4.41M
47Texas$51.5M131023$4.48M
48Tennessee$42.0M10818$4.67M
49North Carolina$23.5M6410$4.70M
50USC$38.0M7916$4.75M
51Nebraska$33.5M7714$4.79M
52Texas A&M$47.5M81119$5.00M
53Michigan State$23.0M549$5.11M
54Stanford$18.0M347$5.14M
55South Carolina$34.0M9413$5.23M
56Kentucky$24.0M459$5.33M
57Arkansas$25.5M729$5.67M
58Oklahoma State$11.5M314$5.75M
59LSU$47.5M9716$5.94M
60Florida$36.0M8412$6.00M
61Maryland$25.0M448$6.25M
62Virginia Tech$30.0M639$6.67M
63Auburn$33.5M5510$6.70M
64UCLA$27.5M538$6.88M
65Wisconsin$31.0M549$6.89M
66Florida State$26.0M257$7.43M
67Mississippi State$29.0M257$8.29M
68Purdue$16.5M123$11.00M
Purdue is really bad at this.
 
#175      
I took each teams current budget for this year and calculated each team's wins over the past 2 years to find out how much it costs per win. This isn't perfect because this is a one year budget and I'm calculating wins over a 2 year period. My goal wasn't to find out the exact cost per win, but just to compare who's paying the least and most for their wins.

RankTeamBudget2024 W2025 WTotal$/Win
1Duke$10.5M9918$1.17M
2Iowa State$12.5M11819$1.32M
3Cincinnati$11.5M5712$1.92M
4Arizona$12.5M4913$1.92M
5Minnesota$15.5M8816$1.94M
6Houston$14.0M41014$2.00M
7Iowa$17.0M8917$2.00M
8SMU$21.0M11920$2.10M
9Kansas State$16.5M9615$2.20M
10Pitt$16.5M7815$2.20M
11Utah$18.0M51116$2.25M
12Arizona State$21.5M11819$2.26M
13BYU$27.0M111223$2.35M
14Illinois$22.5M10919$2.37M
15Wake Forest$16.0M4913$2.46M
16Washington$19.5M6915$2.60M
17Boston College$10.5M718$2.62M
18Louisville$24.5M9918$2.72M
19Indiana$37.5M111627$2.78M
20TCU$25.0M9918$2.78M
21Virginia$22.5M51116$2.81M
22Colorado$17.5M9312$2.92M
23Syracuse$19.0M10313$2.92M
24Georgia$34.0M111223$2.96M
25UCF$13.5M459$3.00M
26Baylor$20.0M8513$3.08M
27Kansas$15.5M5510$3.10M
28Penn State$31.0M13720$3.10M
29Cal$21.0M6713$3.23M
30Vanderbilt$27.5M71017$3.24M
31Missouri$29.5M10818$3.28M
32Georgia Tech$26.5M7916$3.31M
33Rutgers$21.5M7512$3.58M
34Notre Dame$43.5M141024$3.62M
35Clemson$31.0M10717$3.65M
36Ole Miss$43.5M101323$3.78M
37NC State$27.5M6814$3.93M
38Ohio State$51.5M141226$3.96M
39Oregon$51.5M131326$3.96M
40Alabama$40.0M91120$4.00M
41West Virginia$20.0M6410$4.00M
42Oklahoma$32.5M61016$4.06M
43Miami$47.5M101323$4.13M
44Texas Tech$41.5M81220$4.15M
45Northwestern$23.5M4711$4.27M
46Michigan$37.5M8917$4.41M
47Texas$51.5M131023$4.48M
48Tennessee$42.0M10818$4.67M
49North Carolina$23.5M6410$4.70M
50USC$38.0M7916$4.75M
51Nebraska$33.5M7714$4.79M
52Texas A&M$47.5M81119$5.00M
53Michigan State$23.0M549$5.11M
54Stanford$18.0M347$5.14M
55South Carolina$34.0M9413$5.23M
56Kentucky$24.0M459$5.33M
57Arkansas$25.5M729$5.67M
58Oklahoma State$11.5M314$5.75M
59LSU$47.5M9716$5.94M
60Florida$36.0M8412$6.00M
61Maryland$25.0M448$6.25M
62Virginia Tech$30.0M639$6.67M
63Auburn$33.5M5510$6.70M
64UCLA$27.5M538$6.88M
65Wisconsin$31.0M549$6.89M
66Florida State$26.0M257$7.43M
67Mississippi State$29.0M257$8.29M
68Purdue$16.5M123$11.00M
Had Claude put this on a chart. We're +5.3 wins. Purdue is -9.0 wins.

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