Illinois 76, Rutgers 58 Postgame

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You can say that now but there was no way to see the circus that the trio of Sky, Epps and Mayer created coming. Oh if I only knew every bad decision or mistake I ever made before it happened.
first, there are ways to know. that's part of the recruitment process. Do you also believe he gets no credit for Ayo and Shannon? after all, there was "no way to know" they'd be good.

You look at coaches. You look at the choices they make for recruits and see how well they pan out. Some coaches are better than others. Some CEOs are better than others.
 
#302      
I am not sure, isn't the Head Coach ultimately responsible for knowing and then approving recruits as players onto the team?
It's quite simple.

Players on the current roster do not have character issues. They're all best friends and it's only a matter of time before they jell into the national title contenders they're destined to become.

However, if a player transfers, then he definitely maybe had some kind of issue with their character or their camp that simply could not be foreseen. You can't blame a coach for the behavior of a bunch of immature teenagers and twenty-somethings. Good riddance. We're better off without him.

If a player has character issues as an underclassmen but then matures during his time with the Illini, you can credit the coach for developing him into an upstanding young man.

And if a coach stops recruiting a highly sought-after player, it's probably because that player had some sort of character issue. In this case, it was probably a chronic, uncorrectable malady and the coach is to be lauded for prioritizing his locker room over stars (btw stars and rankings don't matter unless we get a commit from a player with a high ranking or a bunch of stars...but that's a different conversation).

Hope that clears it up for you.

Ps. You can be forgiven for not knowing these basic principles. I used to think coaches did their best to balance character with performance but that predicting the behavior and attitudes of young men is an imperfect science. You just have to hope you win more than you lose, but the coach ultimately gets credit for both the wins and the losses. That's what I used to think anyway.
 
#303      
I have one only because my daughter got her CS degree there. It has VETERAN across the bottom.
The only place it will stick on MY Mazda (Miata) is the gas fill flap. I keep the VETERAN upright LOL
Front and rear fenders and the doors are steel on the ‘90, and no doubt all the NA and NB Miatas. Hood is aluminum and I presume the trunk lid as it’s not magnetic.
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
I can´t remember a ref DJ Baldhead game without any discussion of him in the postgame thread.
An 18-point win on the road in which we jumped out to a 14-2 lead and never trailed after 2-0 will do that.
 
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#306      
Gotta make room for all the Mazda Miata discussion
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#307      
Ty had a rough few possessions to start the game but also made a few nice plays that led points. Still doesn't seem comfortable, but I think at worst he's a wash. He offers some strengths against smaller guards and has some weaknesses that can be exploited.

To take him out to put in DGL or Nico isn't going to improve the team on the floor right now because of the impact on defense. If he can clean up his passing when under pressure, he will be fine. He'd do better at the 4, but QG is doing great and we need Domask as a shooter at the 3. So might as well put our best 5 out there and make it work.
Maybe I just miss the posts, but I don’t think many people are advocating for DGL or Nico to play over Ty. I think most people also understand it is BU’s inability to get a legit point guard that has led to Ty playing there and don’t fault Ty for that. Somehow the narrative has been created created that if you express concerns about not having a traditional PG, question whether having one would be better than Ty there or express anything critical when assessing his game then you’re a Ty hater. Again, don’t think that’s the case for many either.
 
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Loyalillini10

Urbana, IL
Maybe I just miss the posts, but I don’t think many people are advocating for DGL or Nico to play over Ty. I think most people also understand it is BU’s inability to get a legit point guard that has led to Ty playing there and don’t fault Ty for that. Somehow the narrative has been created created that if you express concerns about not having a traditional PG, question whether having one would be better than Ty there or express anything critical when assessing his game then you’re a Ty hater. Again, don’t think that’s the case for many either.
That is exactly what several people here are advocating for.
 
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The Ayo/Kofi #1 seed team is likely the best but it wasn't very deep or versatile. Trent was also a solid shooter but very streaky, never became a lights out one.

That team was top heavy with Ayo, Kofi, and Trent but the rest were very inconsistent. Miller also went cold late and couldn't shoot at the end of the year. Damonte also wasn't really a threat since he wasnt shooting with any volume, basically just going for 1 for 2 a game. They also lacked length outside of Kofi.(Couldn't play Kofi and Giorgi at the same time) Grandison was undersized and not very athletic and the guards were all small.

The next year with Kofi really wasn't that good imo. Plummer was a lights out shooter but small and couldn't play defense. Curbelo was absolutely terrible and Grandison got hurt in January and they missed his shooting. Williams was an offensive black hole that year. They won the Big10 but it was basically on the back of Kofi.

This year's team is way deeper and has way more length than those teams. Though I do think the Kofi scheme fit is overblown, if you put Kofi on this year's team in a swap for Hawkins and played him with TSJ, Domask, Goode, etc them they're the number 1 team in the country.
That team had two all Americans but Trent, DaMonte, Grandison not as good as QG, Marcus, and Ty. Think they were better offensively (mainly because of Kofi) but believe this year’s team is better defensively. Only Trent better than his counterpart.
 
#312      
Does anyone know of video of the stands chanting ILL-INI?

And is it possible to watch replays of BTN’s B1G Show from Saturday night? I’d just like to see the reaction.
 
#313      
TSJ's D is better as well, IMO
I think TJ will translate better to the NBA game right now, but I think Ayo is the more lethal player in the mid-range and as a passer. And yeah, I think TJ has to get the nod as the better defender - he punishes screens, and if he jumps the passing lane, it's automatically two going the other direction.
 
#314      
I think TJ will translate better to the NBA game right now, but I think Ayo is the more lethal player in the mid-range and as a passer. And yeah, I think TJ has to get the nod as the better defender - he punishes screens, and if he jumps the passing lane, it's automatically two going the other direction.
Isn’t it fun having these kind of discussions and debates? We’re a really good team with Brad Underwood at the helm!
 
#315      
That is exactly what several people here are advocating for.
You mean several as in “not many”? I’d say my point that the overwhelming majority are not advocating for that is true. Critiquing his performance doesn’t mean one can’t know he is the best option and certainly doesn’t in and of itself make anyone a Ty hater.

I thought TSJ made some poor decisions n Rutgers game that resulted in turnovers. To say that makes me a TSJ hater is a joke and couldn’t be further from the truth.
 
#316      
Ty seems to be a good person and a teammate. I wish everyone would realize that our team is set and quit bad mouthing Ty. There is not going to be a new point guard . Put that opinion to rest and cheer for what we have.
 
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Does anyone know of video of the stands chanting ILL-INI?

And is it possible to watch replays of BTN’s B1G Show from Saturday night? I’d just like to see the reaction.
I think the only way to see if the B1G Show is replayed is to go to the BTN website and go through the "What's On TV". I just checked and apparently, the B1G Show was replayed at 8:30 AM CST. However, there is no indication of just what this particular episode is about, there is no description of the content. It's also being replayed at 9 PM, 10 PM and 10:30 CST. Again, I have no idea the content of said show. There's also B1G Today which seems kind of a similar program, at 11AM and 2 PM CST.
Also, could try the Search but I just tried with less than impressive results.
 
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Incorrect.

He is a freshman on defense, and a work in progress.
I think due to his size he will always be at somewhat of a disadvantage in the style of defense that we run. We don't like to help off shooters (in order to prevent 3 pt attempts) and we try to avoid getting into help and recover situations. Which means that bigger guards will be able to bully him to the basket using booty ball. Not all teams will take advantage, but when they do it'll be tough for DGL to fight that.
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
I think due to his size he will always be at somewhat of a disadvantage in the style of defense that we run. We don't like to help off shooters (in order to prevent 3 pt attempts) and we try to avoid getting into help and recover situations. Which means that bigger guards will be able to bully him to the basket using booty ball. Not all teams will take advantage, but when they do it'll be tough for DGL to fight that.

Fletch will take good care of his growth plates...

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#323      
I think due to his size he will always be at somewhat of a disadvantage in the style of defense that we run. We don't like to help off shooters (in order to prevent 3 pt attempts) and we try to avoid getting into help and recover situations. Which means that bigger guards will be able to bully him to the basket using booty ball. Not all teams will take advantage, but when they do it'll be tough for DGL to fight that.
I think other than IQ and learning schemes his biggest thing will be adding muscle so he can wall guys off on drives better. Currently he can get pushed through. Beyond that I don’t think his size is awful — seems to have a decently long wingspan