Loyalillini10
- Urbana, IL
Ummm…Ayo was/is just as fast, if not faster, than Shannon. Shannon is stronger.
Illinois 76, Rutgers 58 Postgame
Playing Ty at PG also allows the team to switch on defense against any ball screen, which is a huge reason why our defense can be so smothering. You lose that with a traditional PG.Agree.If we had a “legit PG”, he probably wouldn’t have gotten 6 rebounds and a block today.
MDchicago
- Lake Norman NC
Not bad for one game's work.
Ken Pom - from 26th to 18th
Bart Torvik - from 41st to 32nd
Evan Maya - from 28th to 16th
Great win. Loved Brad's demeanor in the post-game press conference. Can tell he thinks he has a team with some upside. Love having great defense and rebounding as the baseline. If we can add improved ball security and offensive efficiency to that mix, look out ....
Also loved that he called out our free throw rate against Kansas in the post-game comments, as our FTR in that exhibition game (57.1) was a big contributor to getting that win and is an outlier relative to the games played so far. Our FTR was 39.7 in our first regular season game (vs. Eastern Illinois), and below 30 in each of the last six games. Unlimited fouls in the exhibition accounts for a chunk of the difference, but we were driving the ball opportunistically and getting to the line. Glad that has not gone unnoticed...
Ken Pom - from 26th to 18th
Bart Torvik - from 41st to 32nd
Evan Maya - from 28th to 16th
Great win. Loved Brad's demeanor in the post-game press conference. Can tell he thinks he has a team with some upside. Love having great defense and rebounding as the baseline. If we can add improved ball security and offensive efficiency to that mix, look out ....
Also loved that he called out our free throw rate against Kansas in the post-game comments, as our FTR in that exhibition game (57.1) was a big contributor to getting that win and is an outlier relative to the games played so far. Our FTR was 39.7 in our first regular season game (vs. Eastern Illinois), and below 30 in each of the last six games. Unlimited fouls in the exhibition accounts for a chunk of the difference, but we were driving the ball opportunistically and getting to the line. Glad that has not gone unnoticed...
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They did, but they did seat us in the very back corner of the restaurant next to some Georgia fans, who were not pleased when I was standing up and yelling "YES!" on some of the outstanding Illini plays. Hence the need for a bail bondsman . . . .Did they put it on for you?
Ayo had amazing vision and looked like Devin Hester picking his way through a punt coverage when he got in transition. TJ's size and speed and aggression going to the basket is unmatched. Not picking a side, both are wonderful to watch.
The streak is broken. Every time I get together with my family around the holidays we lose. No more! Great and dominate win. Go Illini
Finally, they came out ready to play. I credit Guerrier for getting us off to a great start as he was a force in the first few minutes. The 3 point shooting was good, free throws were better, rebounding was tremendous and the D seem to get better as the game went on. I will give Hawkins credit for playing a good defensive game against Omoryuri [although all his points I believe came against Hawkins but still a good game. The entire team played together with TJS and Domask leading the way, good balanced scoring. Never saw Dra [would have been good to get him in the 2nd half with the game salted away to give him a taste. BIG action] I still like Dancing Bear starting over COHawk. Hope they don't sit on their laurels, they need to focus on FAU on Tuesday. I think it will take another great effort to take them down.
So here's my take on DGL- I think he certainly has offensive talent and can have a high ceiling on that side of the ball, but his defense and playing within the framework of the team both need a lot of work right now. And to be clear, this is something almost all freshmen in the B10 have historically struggled with. And as such, it gets hard to play them in a hostile road environment where possessions are at a premium
For DGL especially in this case, thru his first 7 games, he has been getting beat badly on the defensive end where opponents were singling him out and taking it to him when he was on the court. And offensively, while he does have a high ceiling, he's more in the trying to "get his" phase than playing within the flow of the offense. Again, this is perfectly normal for a freshman, and that's why most freshman guards in the B10 just don't see much playing time unless you are either forced into it or their offense is just too good to bench. Thru 7 games, out of all the players on the team, DGL rated lowest for me in the time he played. So it makes sense to me that he didn't get time tonight. That said, if he continues to work hard on both sides of the floor and take advantage if the opportunities he can get, this can certainly change.
blackdog
- Champaign
Agree. The first few games my anxiety level was up when Ty was at point, and down when Marcus was pg. Now, much closer to the same.
drsmitty74
- Rochester
I was actually going to post that I truly feel that this play, set the tone early on.
We do not have a PG issue
Hopefully we also have a lower incident of caffeine overdose this year
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
imagine saying that Quincy was destined to be a role player (~16 minutes off the bench)
This. The defense was smotheringly wonderful
This is just my thought, but the person who said that playing Ty at the point allows for the “all out” switching that BU has wanted to do for some time Is right on. Now if any of the guards get in foul trouble (I include Luke, MD, TSJ and Ty in that category) then the first guard off the bench is JH. Ok we loose a little on D gain a little on O in theory, but it mostly still allows for the switching.
That leads to who will be our next guard off the bench if 2 of the three in parentheses get in foul trouble. Well at this point it is Nico or DGL, one is a point the other is a potential scorer. I think that is very much why Harris RSed. We have defense and at best he would have been fighting Nico and DGL for time. He needed to get his offensive game at least serviceable.
In the old days DGL would have red shirted, but as it is today he could see time due to either foul problems or just a perfect match up situation.
We have so much length out of our top 9 players that it is tough not to have a rotation of them.
Just my 2 cents?
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
too bad Brad doesn't know what he's doing
Retro62
- North Bethesda, Maryland
Adding to @altgeld88’s comments, it really is a good place to watch a game, and the RU people are very nice folks. We met both students and alums in a few different places and everyone was very friendly. They are also a very supportive fan base, which makes it fun.
Not sure if the numbers will validate this, but it feels like this year, the Illini have more reliable 3-point shooters, compared to the last few years.
Goode hit a three to put the Illini ahead by double digits--I just assume now that he'll hit most of those three's. Good thing to have.
It's also a good feeling to have that stud (Shannon) to score at will, or score when his team needs a big basket, or get to the free-throw line--very similar to Ayo.
Who will that be next year? Going to miss Shannon.
Goode hit a three to put the Illini ahead by double digits--I just assume now that he'll hit most of those three's. Good thing to have.
It's also a good feeling to have that stud (Shannon) to score at will, or score when his team needs a big basket, or get to the free-throw line--very similar to Ayo.
Who will that be next year? Going to miss Shannon.
Did my eyes deceive me or did Cohawk deliver that pass BETWEEN THE LEGS of the second defender?
Very interesting. What the hell is a Free Throw Rate?
ginabackes00
CrazedUIFan
Not only reliable 3pt shooters, but we’re shooting them in the flow of the offense due to unselfish play and shooters being in the right spots on the floor.
Tacomallini
- Washington State
I can´t remember a ref DJ Baldhead game without any discussion of him in the postgame thread.
This is going to be such a fun season to watch. This is such an unusual lineup. If you consider the 9 man rotation we saw yesterday, ILL has one 6'-4" player and 8 betwen 6'-6" and 6'10". 1 first year player, 1 second year player, 1 third year player, and 6 four+ year players, and most have very high BB IQ. I don't know if Ty Rodgers is going to be a great facilitator (not really necessary with this much experience), but he will be a mismatch for any team with tradiional PGs. This team always has 4 players (sometimes all 5) on the court that are comfortable with the ball in their hands. There will be games where the matchups wotk against us, but the great majority of the time, ILL will have the mismatch advantages. I hope I can get used to the ball movement that uses the clock to get the best shot. They look like a team that has played together for a long time. I remember watching a team like this once before. It might have been around 2005.
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