Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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IlliniNation1010
Jacob said:
http://www.scout.com/college/footba...3826-breaking-illinois-leads-for-tymar-sutton

Illinois is the clear cut leader for Tymar Sutton as of today

http://www.scout.com/player/197212-tymar-sutton?s=73
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Tymar-Sutton-80609/RecruitInterests

My favorite linebacker in the class. I like him alot. How they are stacking the Linebackers looks really great for years to come.
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:thumb:we are definitely looking good with Sutton.
the one thing I don't like in that article, he states he'd like to take an OV here in Nov or Dec. C'mon Tymar, commit already:D
 
#1,078      
calibear
Went back to my notes on Sutton I remembered his grade but not how I had him for speed. Still confused on that due to a change in the notes. But briefly very physical player what's missing in Walton and has at least very, very good speed. He has mid to high range athletic skills across the board. My concern is his size currently and to some degree like like Ruff does not always make the read quickly so that change be coached up usually. He got a 3* 5.6 ranking or just a tick higher than those already mentioned.
 
#1,079      
calibear
The second I don't believe it story is about recruiting and I will try posting it in the next couple days.:eek:
 
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uofi09
#1,081      
Jacob
uofi09 said:
Article on Kentrail Moran
http://www.scout.com/college/illinois/story/1574054-prep-preview-kentrail-moran



Scout has Jeff Thomas the 33rd overall and 5th ranked WR in the 2017 class.
http://www.scout.com/player/185026-jeff-thomas/recruiting?year=2016&s=169
Has offers from Alabama, Florida State, Missouri, Ohio State among other top schools.
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The top 2 WR in the state of Illinois are absolute studs. Isaiah Robertson is from Mike Dudek's high school as well. Land either one of those two in 2017 and it would be great
 
#1,084      
classof2018
Illinnoying Orange said:
Already?? They haven't even been practicing for a week yet have they?

The recruiting celebrities kids thing hasn't worked real well for UCLA lately.
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The article says he never even showed up to training camp.
 
#1,085      
calibear
I live about 60 miles due east of Los Angeles and that comes as no major surprise. 2-3 weeks ago there was a dust up involving him. There is a class of kids that are children of celebrities that have no clue what the real world is like. Yet some succeed so all I can say is bye Felicia.:D:eek::D
 
#1,086      
GilThorpe
Illinnoying Orange said:
Already?? They haven't even been practicing for a week yet have they?

The recruiting celebrities kids thing hasn't worked real well for UCLA lately.
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most of those kids grow up never even having to wipe their own !!!. :mad:

who else did UCLA get that ended up effing them ?
 
#1,087      
Jacob
GilThorpe said:
most of those kids grow up never even having to wipe their own !!!. :mad:

who else did UCLA get that ended up effing them ?
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P. Diddy's son. P. Diddy took a kettle bell to an assistant coach. No charges of course and his son is in the 2-deep
 
#1,088      
calibear
Things seem slow so as promised the second true story.
I don't remember the year but you can all figure it out easily enough I think.
I had been doing my scouting for several years, not sure how long not something at the time I thought significant. Very little information was published in any form back then about college players except there stats. Less on scouts and what they did so I simply created a system for keeping track of the players and their ratings. My own numerical system for rating a player, also a positional break down from top to bottom and a big board for all positions. It seemed the only way to figure out who should be available and who you would want to draft by the pro teams. Now back then injuries and discipline problems or behavior problems next to never were discussed or published publicly. So I was in the dark if a player had a injury problem that concerned pro teams same about behavior. My numeric system was unlike what the pro teams did as well.
However I had a few guys back there that were starting to get into the scouting aspect of the draft. You could talk to the most devoted fan back then and they had no clue who should get draft except a name like Namath. With their prodding I contacted all the pro teams sending them in a a decent sized sampler of what I worked up had for the coming draft. Who should get draft, when and a drop down list of players by position.
Of course very quickly I received form letters from all the teams but one telling me no position openings in their scouting departments. The final team was the Buffalo Bills it was a month or more before I received a letter from them. It was also a denial but not a form letter. They thanked me telling me they had no openings at this time, but they were putting it on file for future references.
Well I did not think much about it at the time as it was a no thank you. Frankly I was not surprised I was self taught my system immediately looked different and I nothing to show for experience, just a break down of the coming draft with a drop down list and big board drop down I mass mailed the teams. Also some individual break downs some players fleshed out.
Then came the draft and sometime after maybe a week when I had calmed down about the Bears choices I went back and looked at what I had sent the teams. It was then I realized why the Bills letter was different and that I was actually probably on file. The only way I can tell you the year for the draft, as again it did not strike me as significant at the time was, it was the year Thurman Thomas was drafted by the Bills.
Every single player the Bills draft that year was included in my abbreviated list I sent the teams. Every single player they took was on there and list as to when I felt they should be drafted along with the big board drop down list. They were all taken where I would have taken them. I only came close to that once for the Bears. I was a little shocked as I had no idea who the Bills or any other team but the Bears should be drafted and where.
So yeah I understood why they decided to at least stick my name in a file. No I was never contacted and only found out 3 -4 years ago everything I created for my system save the individual numbering for rating individual players was precisely they the systems the teams have. Thank you NFL network.
That told me I had an idea of what to look for and tried to get better at it every year until my health made me stop about 4 years ago.
For what is worth to any of you who might be interested and sorry it is so long.
 
#1,089      
calibear
Jacob said:
P. Diddy's son. P. Diddy took a kettle bell to an assistant coach. No charges of course and his son is in the 2-deep
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That was it he was done then with Ucla. Just apparently not made official.
 
#1,091      
IllinoisFanAtFSU
According to Scout, we have no remaining prospects at the 4-star ranking, and as such Kentrail Moran will be our lone 4-star. I'm perfectly okay with that, as long as we land many 3-stars, but why aren't we in the discussion for more 4-stars at this stage of the game? This is the first year in my memory that we haven't at least targeted a bunch and been "in the discussion" at this time of the recruiting cycle. http://www.scout.com/college/illino...ear=2016&team=Illinois&minimumInterest=Medium
 
#1,092      
Hoppy2105
IllinoisFanAtFSU said:
According to Scout, we have no remaining prospects at the 4-star ranking, and as such Kentrail Moran will be our lone 4-star. I'm perfectly okay with that, as long as we land many 3-stars, but why aren't we in the discussion for more 4-stars at this stage of the game? This is the first year in my memory that we haven't at least targeted a bunch and been "in the discussion" at this time of the recruiting cycle. http://www.scout.com/college/illino...ear=2016&team=Illinois&minimumInterest=Medium
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Still a lot of time left, and maybe there will be some updated ratings?
 
#1,093      
LurkLongandProsper
Jacob said:
The top 2 WR in the state of Illinois are absolute studs. Isaiah Robertson is from Mike Dudek's high school as well. Land either one of those two in 2017 and it would be great
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I'd love to land them, but it's not going to happen if we make a coaching change. Zero chance.
 
#1,096      
Jacob
IllinoisFanAtFSU said:
According to Scout, we have no remaining prospects at the 4-star ranking, and as such Kentrail Moran will be our lone 4-star. I'm perfectly okay with that, as long as we land many 3-stars, but why aren't we in the discussion for more 4-stars at this stage of the game? This is the first year in my memory that we haven't at least targeted a bunch and been "in the discussion" at this time of the recruiting cycle. http://www.scout.com/college/illino...ear=2016&team=Illinois&minimumInterest=Medium
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Have Spears be taught safety and I think Julian Jones might grow into a Leo and Justice Williams will play at Star with that in mind we would need a lot of help at LB. I hope they move Sumpter and Cain back to Cornerback. I hope Cain can redshirt this year and they move him back to CB

TE Cody Mitchell
DE Jordan Gilberti
DE Willie Baker
DT Ken McLaurin
LB Ken Ruff
LB Tim Walton
LB Tymar Sutton
CB Bryce Banks
K Braxton Pickard
WR Roddrick Bryant
WR Harry Ballard III
OL Someone of Alaric Jackson, Darta Lee, Doug Kramer group or swoop into try to grab Spencer Katz from WMU if PJ Fleck is on to bigger and better things

That would put us at exactly 25 for the class and with deflections and certain players not having their 5th year can make it happen
 
#1,097      
LurkLongandProsper
Jacob said:
I don't think there is going to be a coaching change here but there will be in Iowa.
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Personally I agree, but I know we are not in the majority around here with that opinion.

Jacob said:
Have Spears be taught safety and I think Julian Jones might grow into a Leo and Justice Williams will play at Star with that in mind we would need a lot of help at LB. I hope they move Sumpter and Cain back to Cornerback. I hope Cain can redshirt this year and they move him back to CB

TE Cody Mitchell
DE Jordan Gilberti
DE Willie Baker
DT Ken McLaurin
LB Ken Ruff
LB Tim Walton
LB Tymar Sutton
CB Bryce Banks
K Braxton Pickard
WR Roddrick Bryant
WR Harry Ballard III
OL Someone of Alaric Jackson, Darta Lee, Doug Kramer group or swoop into try to grab Spencer Katz from WMU if PJ Fleck is on to bigger and better things

That would put us at exactly 25 for the class and with deflections and certain players not having their 5th year can make it happen
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Cain has been pretty good at Rantoul. It's possible he plays because he can contribute immediately at WR. I went yesterday and I caught myself confused because #86 was making a bunch of catches, and Malik had changed numbers. I actually had to check to make sure I wasn't crazy.

I think Julian Jones will ultimately wind up at STAR or (*maybe*) WLB rather than LEO myself, but- I agree there. I think Justise/Jones will be our edge LBs. (Will, STAR)
 
#1,098      
Jacob
LurkLongandProsper said:
Personally I agree, but I know we are not in the majority around here with that opinion.



Cain has been pretty good at Rantoul. It's possible he plays because he can contribute immediately at WR. I went yesterday and I caught myself confused because #86 was making a bunch of catches, and Malik had changed numbers. I actually had to check to make sure I wasn't crazy.

I think Julian Jones will ultimately wind up at STAR or (*maybe*) WLB rather than LEO myself, but- I agree there. I think Justise/Jones will be our edge LBs. (Will, STAR)
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If Cain stays at WR, we would only need 1 more WR unless it is Donell Dunn and could go after another CB. We just offered CB Donovan Duvernay and he seems like a stud or try to snipe a committed MAC player CB Dontre Boyd who I really like as well.

WR in 2016 look good

WR 1 Turner/DJ Taylor/TSD
WR 2 Mays/ (hope Bryant)/Murdock
Slot Dudek/Cain/Grant

with Barr still floating around there as well. That is why I hope Cain flips across the way

2016 CB is :

CB Mosely/James/ Have no idea
CB Dunlap/sumpter/Watkins

Unless Caleb Day is moved down there our 2 deep would be quite weak at CB. If flips down our safety 2 deep is weak that is why the team would be best served with Cain at DB.

I think we can survive Kent State and Western Illinois w/o Cain before Justin Hardee comes back and don't have to burn his redshirt. It is appears Mays is the 3 best receiver in camp right now so he is going to play no matter what
 
#1,099      
uofi09
Does anyone know what time tomorrow Tim Walton is announcing?
 
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